Editing Eurovision Wiki:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard (section)

== Irene Montero ==

{{pagelinks|Irene Montero}}

This Spanish politician is being accused of 1) "advocating pedophilia" and 2) implicitly endorsing the [[Great Replacement conspiracy theory]]. It seems to me that sourcing is inadequate to justify inclusion of the pedophilia allegations, and that the use of sources to connect her remarks to the conspiracy theory involves [[WP:OR|original analysis]]. I have therefore reverted on the basis of [[WP:BLPREMOVE]]. 

A [[Special:Contributions/Ninever829|brand-new account, apparently created for this purpose]], has been edit warring for inclusion of both paragraphs. This account, and one other, have claimed that my opposition to this material is purely ideological, so I am inviting neutral parties to weigh in. 

See the current discussion [[Talk:Irene_Montero#Removal_of_“Controversy”_Section|here]], and also the previous discussion at [[Talk:Great_Replacement_conspiracy_theory#Member_of_European_Parliament_undue?|Talk:Great Replacement conspiracy theory]]. 

Cheers, [[User:Generalrelative|Generalrelative]] ([[User talk:Generalrelative|talk]]) 21:31, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

:The connection to replacement theory was made ''explicitly by Irene Montero herself'', not "original analysis", as you falsely claim.
:You already know this, so why are you lying? [[User:Ninever829|Ninever829]] ([[User talk:Ninever829|talk]]) 22:46, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

::As far as I can tell from reliable sources like ''El Pais'', Montero was clearly making a rhetorical flourish in order to mock the conspiracy theory, not endorse it. [https://elpais.com/espana/2026-02-02/irene-montero-contesta-a-elon-musk-tras-acusarla-de-incitar-al-genocidio-las-personas-decentes-deben-reemplazarte.html] This has all been discussed at length over at [[Talk:Great Replacement conspiracy theory#Member of European Parliament undue?]] Whether some mention of the hubbub by white supremacists on Twitter is notable is a separate question, but the language you've been edit warring to include clearly misrepresents Montero's words. [[User:Generalrelative|Generalrelative]] ([[User talk:Generalrelative|talk]]) 23:34, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
:::{{reply to|Generalrelative}} {{tqi|As far as I can tell}} You're injecting your own interpretation. Try again. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-93171-3|&#126;2026-93171-3]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-93171-3|talk]]) 01:10, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
::I'm reading the article in English, so I suppose it's ''possible'' that something is getting lost in translation, but I don't see any way to interpret her comments as saying she was endorsing the "replacement" of white Europeans with immigrants (as the Great Replacement theory alleges). [[User:BubbaJoe123456|BubbaJoe123456]] ([[User talk:BubbaJoe123456|talk]]) 17:12, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
:::{{reply to|BubbaJoe123456}} {{tqi|I don't see any way to interpret her comments as saying}} You're injecting your own interpretation. Try again. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-93171-3|&#126;2026-93171-3]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-93171-3|talk]]) 01:11, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
::As per my comment at Great Replacement conspiracy theory talk page. This is a rhetorical device, using the far rights words to inverting their meaning. It's a common device used in political speeches on both sides of the political divide. The idea that she's endorsing or stating that the conspiracy theory is true are just nonsense. -- <small>LCU</small> '''[[User:ActivelyDisinterested|A<small>ctively</small>D<small>isinterested</small>]]''' <small>''«[[User talk:ActivelyDisinterested|@]]» °[[Special:Contributions/ActivelyDisinterested|∆t]]°''</small> 13:57, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
:::{{reply to|ActivelyDisinterested}} {{tqi|This is a rhetorical device}} You're injecting your own interpretation. Try again. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-93171-3|&#126;2026-93171-3]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-93171-3|talk]]) 01:11, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
::::This is a place for third ''opinion'', see [[WP:3O]]. -- <small>LCU</small> '''[[User:ActivelyDisinterested|A<small>ctively</small>D<small>isinterested</small>]]''' <small>''«[[User talk:ActivelyDisinterested|@]]» °[[Special:Contributions/ActivelyDisinterested|∆t]]°''</small> 08:49, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
::::Also see my comment here[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Great_Replacement_conspiracy_theory#c-ActivelyDisinterested-20260202212700-Alaexis-20260202211200]. That sources would, correctly, state that the conspiracy theory is a load of racist nonsense show they do not mean that she is endorsing the actual existence of the conspiracy. -- <small>LCU</small> '''[[User:ActivelyDisinterested|A<small>ctively</small>D<small>isinterested</small>]]''' <small>''«[[User talk:ActivelyDisinterested|@]]» °[[Special:Contributions/ActivelyDisinterested|∆t]]°''</small> 11:32, 11 March 2026 (UTC)