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== Do sources make this claim? ==

This is in regards to [[Winter Olympics 2022]]. I have persistent disagreement with another user over 3 cases of WP: SYNTH;
* 1. They have added to the lede that China detained foreign journalists (plural) at the games. The issue is none of their provided sources say that.[https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/beijing-olympics-dutch-journalist-interrupted-on-air-by-chinese-official-ioc-says-oneoff-101644119785006.html][https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/feb/21/journalist-beijing-winter-olympics-foreign-correspondents-club][https://www.newsweek.com/sjoerd-den-daas-winter-olympics-beijing-nos-1676546] What their sources describe is a single incident in which one reporter was escorted back to a permitted zone and allowed to resume reporting minutes later. There was no formal detention, and they are amplifying single events through loaded wording and giving the impression of numerous foreign journalists getting locked up in detention centres.
*2. Additionally they keep saying that dozens of suspicious Twitter accounts were released by the government.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2022_Winter_Olympics&diff=prev&oldid=1337942743] The issue again is no sources say this. Throughout the entire article, not once does anyone say it's been confirmed. More importantly, Twitter never confirmed it and say they are still investigating and will disclose if they ever found clear evidence. They banned those accounts for a different reason.[https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-suspends-hundreds-of-bots-posting-chinese-olympic-propaganda-2022-2][https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/china-fake-accounts-peng-shuai-claims][https://www.propublica.org/article/how-bots-and-fake-accounts-push-chinas-vision-of-winter-olympic-wonderland]
*3. They also want to add in that China censored discussion over the potential environmental impact of the games.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2022_Winter_Olympics&diff=prev&oldid=1337944357] But not only do none of their sources support that. One of them is a dead link dated 2013.[https://web.archive.org/web/20130823160349/http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4] Another only mentions some western countries taking burner phones to the 2022 winter Olympics.[https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2022/01/13/2022-olympics-china-athletes-warned-over-personal-phones-beijing/9198411002/] None of the sources even mention that Chinese citizens were prevented from discussing Olympics-related environmental issues. I removed them per WP:SYNTH but they kept restoring. So it be nice to have a qualified third opinion to avoid an edit war.
[[User:Smalledi|Smalledi]] ([[User talk:Smalledi|talk]]) 15:24, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

:'Foreign Correspondents’ Club of China says reporters tailed and manhandled by security despite assurances from Games officials. The FCCC also highlighted significant online trolling and abuse of journalists who had covered Olympic events and related stories. “In some cases these attacks were fuelled by Chinese state media accounts and Chinese diplomats,” it said, describing an observed aspect of state-backed online harassment and propaganda campaigns.' [https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/feb/21/journalist-beijing-winter-olympics-foreign-correspondents-club]
:As this and other attacks on journalists fit a pattern of a state-backed campaign then this is significant enough to mention in the lede. Thus, "foreign journalists were harassed and detained" is fair. [[User:LionTank|LionTank]] ([[User talk:LionTank|talk]]) 22:34, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
::@[[User:LionTank|LionTank]] The issue is that's not what the Guardian says. It says that the FCCC claims these things, but the Guardian has not confirmed it. This would be a perfectly fine source for an attributed statement (e.g., "The FCCC claims that reporters were tailed and manhandled...") but is not sufficient for a statement in Wikivoice (e.g., "Reporters were tailed and manhandled.") As for a pattern, we as editors cannot make that conclusion; that's very much [[WP:SYNTH]]. Wikipedia summarizes what [[WP:RS]] say, and unless an [[WP:RS]] says there's a pattern (e.g., of harassment and detention), we can't conclude that. [[User:EducatedRedneck|EducatedRedneck]] ([[User talk:EducatedRedneck|talk]]) 02:39, 14 February 2026 (UTC)