Editing Talk:Bloody Sunday (1972) (section)

== Split trial? ==

This isn't a huge article, but the section on the murder trial of Soldier F is likely to significantly increase in size as it proceeds. Might be worth splitting it off into its own article? [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 22:10, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

:I'm not convinced we need the ongoing daily updates. [[User:FDW777|FDW777]] ([[User talk:FDW777|talk]]) 22:25, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
::Fair enough, and I suspect (as implied by ianmacm below) that once things wrap up/settle down it can either be pared down (significantly) or split. I can wait. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 09:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
There should probably be a separate article for the trial of Soldier F, but since the court case is ongoing, this is not the best time to do it. The article risks running into [[WP:TOPIC]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]] by giving constant updates.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 06:41, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
:Jumping in here, I think the whole trials and inquiries in general should be split into a separate article. The vast majority of the article is about aftermaths, trials etc, and the actual subject incident is getting buried with all these edits on the trials. The trials, inquiries etc. are important, but when they're more than the main event it's time to split. [[User:Canterbury Tail|<b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b>]] [[User talk:Canterbury Tail|<i style="color: Blue;">talk</i>]] 17:46, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
::With the trial closed and findings to be posted this week, it's either going to be "split out the trial" or "pare it down to just the general facts". For the latter, we certainly don't need the gritty details of who gets to admit evidence and statements from every victim, which was where I was originally thinking we would go; give a couple of paragraphs and call it a day. Are you thinking that other sections should be split off as well? [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 00:54, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
:::i would suggest split off into a separate "trial of Soilder F" article so as not to lose details, then just have a summary paragraph on this main article with a wiki link to the trial ... there could be a whole other can of worms about to be opened when the verdict is announced which would then need recording under the trial article too 16:48, 20 October 2025 (UTC) [[User:WorldTravleerAndPhotoTaker|WorldTravleerAndPhotoTaker]] ([[User talk:WorldTravleerAndPhotoTaker|talk]]) 16:48, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
::::We definitely need an article that can say the actual name of the murderer [[Special:Contributions/2A00:102A:5005:66CB:680F:48FF:FE1D:88E3|2A00:102A:5005:66CB:680F:48FF:FE1D:88E3]] ([[User talk:2A00:102A:5005:66CB:680F:48FF:FE1D:88E3|talk]]) 16:18, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::Until the status quo changes, then... no. A page split will not magically change the consensus here not to include the name. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 21:21, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
Too soon. As {{u|WorldTravleerAndPhotoTaker}} says, we could end up having to record information in two different places. There is no rush, let's see what the verdict is and what emerges, then we can trim, split and trim, or expand slightly, as needed. [[User:Bastun|<span style="padding:3px;background:#ffa502;">Bastun</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Bastun|Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!]]</sup> 16:53, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

===Reboot===
The murder charges and trial of Soldier F sections take up a vastly disproportionate amount of space in this article. A new, separate article for those really needs to be created [[User:Billsmith60|Billsmith60]] ([[User talk:Billsmith60|talk]]) 20:43, 30 December 2025 (UTC)
:It's been almost a month since the above post (which I've split out into its own section for ease of editing) and three months since the verdict and last major edits regarding this matter. I'd say we have three options for the trial section: keep as-is, trim it down, or split it off into its own article.
:At the moment, the only thing I am sure of is that I don't really want to keep this as-is; both in length and references it's about 16% of the total page length, which doesn't sound like a ton until one takes into account the page is currently at 150k bytes. It definitely has enough content (at 24k bytes) to merit being split off, I just wonder if it's a bit too in the weeds to ''necessitate'' a full article; it really comes down to "there was a trial, he was found not guilty as the evidence wasn't sufficient" and could probably/easily be condensed into 1-2 paragraphs without losing the important information. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 11:51, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

::There should be a separate article now that the trial is over.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 14:35, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
:::I've added two tags: to suggest the creation of a separate article and note the excessive detail in the absence thereof [[User:Billsmith60|Billsmith60]] ([[User talk:Billsmith60|talk]]) 09:26, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
::::I split off the trial section to [[Draft:Trial of Soldier F]]. I'm not sure if we need more explanation or expansion of the lead (definitely could use suggestions on categories that we could add), but if folk are fine with what is there to start off with, I'll go ahead and move it to the article space. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 18:04, 6 February 2026 (UTC)
:::::Now split. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 22:26, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
::::::Good job [[User:Billsmith60|Billsmith60]] ([[User talk:Billsmith60|talk]]) 01:30, 18 February 2026 (UTC)