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===More Wetman comments on Carlaude=== :Wikipedia's rather naive article [[War in Heaven]] also takes Carlaude's narrowly Christianist pov, and is not a desirable model of competent discourse, but it does have a brief section that Carlaude will surely want to blank: ::'''Similar motif outside Judeo-Christian faiths''' ::The fall of superhuman beings punished for opposing gods is also found outside of the Abrahamic faiths. [[Homer]]'s [[Iliad]] says [[Hephaestus]] was cast down from the heavenly threshold by [[Zeus]] and landed on the island of [[Lemnos]] nearly dead.<ref>[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0133&layout=&loc=1.590 Iliad 1:590-594], [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0134&layout=&loc=1.590 translation]</ref> [[Hesiod]] 's [[Theogony]] recounts that the gods, after defeating the [[Titan (mythology)|Titans]], hurled them down to [[Tartarus]] (the [[Titanomachy]]) as far beneath the earth as earth is beneath the sky.<ref>[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0129 lines 718-726], [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0130 translation]</ref> {{reflist}} :I don't think we need to put up with bullying over something as familiar as this.[[User:Wetman|Wetman]] ([[User talk:Wetman|talk]]) 18:56, 26 February 2010 (UTC) ::We don't need to blank this. The text is seems fine to me; it is only the footnote that both fails to be found in the cited chapter and is missleading (at best). If you think it has any bearing on your Titanomachy statement, thou, I don't see it. Please be more clear on that, or take this to [[War in Heaven|that page]]. <sup>[[User talk:Carlaude|{{#if:|<span style="background-color:Carl;color:red;"></span>|<span style="color:red;">Carl</span>}}{{#if:|<span style="background-color:aude:;color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;">aude:</span>}}]][[User talk:Carlaude|{{#if:|<span style="background-color:Talk;color:purple;"></span>|<span style="color:purple;">Talk</span>}}]]</sup> 06:21, 27 February 2010 (UTC) I'm not the local amateur theologist you have in mind, but as I've never, ever, ever, EVER heard of a Jewish War in Heaven myth, I think just "Christian" is probably fine. Also, what is "Israely"? Do you mean "Israeli" or is there some term I haven't heard of? [[Special:Contributions/134.173.14.247|134.173.14.247]] ([[User talk:134.173.14.247|talk]]) 19:18, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
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