Editing Talk:Socialist Party (Ireland) (section)

== renaming to Solidarity – The Socialist Alternative and merging with Solidarity (Ireland) article ==

It seems that the Socialist Party will be rebranding to ''Solidarity – The Socialist Alternative''. Obviously, the renaming of the article will depend on reliable non-self sources to mention this change (though the non-self thing is a slightly silly rule).

At the same time, it seems that the website for their front organisation [[Solidarity (Ireland)|Solidarity]]'s website solidarity.ie has been redirected to the socialistparty.ie website, which has now changed its domain name to solidarity.ie. This suggests that the Solidarity brand is also being wound up as well in favour of this new Socialist Party rebrand. Of course, that would still all be subject to reliable sources.

No matter what happens, though, I suggest we merge Solidarity (Ireland) with this page, as AAA / Solidarity were nothing more than electoral labels for the Socialist Party. There's no real need in keeping it separate, especially when technically they were not registered as political parties but part of an alliance that is registered as a political party. Much of that page can be inserted, integrated, and combined with the text on this page. [[User:Lough Swilly|Lough Swilly]] ([[User talk:Lough Swilly|talk]]) 02:56, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

:Our article on Solidarity (Ireland) states that the  Socialist Party "held discussions in August 2015 with the People Before Profit about forming a new political grouping. On 17 September 2015, the two parties announced that they had formally registered as a single political party for electoral purposes." Not quite the same thing as being an electoral label for the Socialist Party alone. We should probably keep the two separate for now. And if that is the case, and we decide a rename for this article is necessary (as of now, I'm not convinced it is, unless ''the party itself is renaming'' rather than 'rebranding' in its external media) we can't have two articles with the same name, or names close enough to be confused, so we'd need to distinguish them by date, e.g. [[Solidarity (Ireland, founded 2014)]] and [[Solidarity – The Socialist Alternative  (Ireland, founded 2026)]] or something similar. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 03:08, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
:'''Support merging [[Socialist Party (Ireland)]] into [[Solidarity (Ireland)]]''' - Even before this name change/rebrand, I've considered proposing a merge of the two entities as one is inseparable from the other. If the Socialist party is going to simply call itself Solidarity now, it's going to get very confusing, and a merge is the simplest way to cut through that. We don't have to complicate things with dates in the article title; Simply merge this article into [[Solidarity (Ireland)]] and note the alternatives names in the body and infobox of the merged article. [[User:CeltBrowne|CeltBrowne]] ([[User talk:CeltBrowne|talk]]) 09:33, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
::The existing Solidarity (Ireland) article is discussing a different entity: one formed as a joint grouping with People Before Profit. We absolutely need to differentiate between this and the new 'rebranding' of the SP. They aren't the same thing. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 13:17, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Support - It does seem evident, based on their own website's statement, that the Socialist Party name/brand is being retired, and that the party itself will be known as "Solidarity - The Socialist Alternative", or Solidarity as shorthand, from now on, with the new URL reinforcing this. <ref>https://www.solidarity.ie/2026/03/statement-on-campaigning-as-solidarity-the-socialist-alternative/</ref> [[User:Culloty82|Culloty82]] ([[User talk:Culloty82|talk]]) 13:47, 12 March 2026 (UTC)