Editing Eurovision Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (section)

== Disruptive editing by [[User:At0068308]] ==
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| result = Upgraded to indef after TP abuse. TAs blocked as well. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 02:09, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
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| result = Blocked for 72 hours for personal attacks and politicizing content disputes. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 20:28, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
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{{u|At0068308}} has been spending the last couple of days removing information about the US ice hockey teams and their interactions with the Whitehouse and Kash Patel, eg. [[Special:Diff/1343498560]], [[Special:Diff/1343498815]], [[Special:Diff/1343494645]], [[Special:Diff/1343496115]], etc. This in itself could have been sorted out on talk pages. 

They have however started to dole out personal attacks after they've received some pushback - eg. just now in [[Special:Diff/1343639490|this diff]] - I told them they could add content to the article if they find a reliable source that backs it up, and they replied with comparing me to a nazi because I have the word "they" in my userpage - {{tq|great... another 'they' in the profile. whenever gay/trans flags or prnonouns appear in profile, it's like the nazi symbol -> aggressive political BS. no suprise, you gang up on the one who calls out your framing and trying to force your bluesky outrage as a general public issue}}. In this [[Special:Diff/1343512643|edit summary]] they said {{tq|dude, you have a trans flag in your profile. am i supposed to take that question seriously?}}.

These kinds of responses go against [[WP:NPA]] and [[WP:AGF]]. [[User:Bugghost|<span style="font-weight:bold;color:#f50">BugGhost</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Bugghost|🦗👻]] 15:23, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:{{tq|another 'they' in the profile. whenever gay/trans flags or prnonouns appear in profile, it's like the nazi symbol}}. Someone please boot this user into Row Z. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 15:33, 15 March 2026 (UTC)


so pointing out you have a highly politicized flag (gay/trans) and the use of pronous which is also highly politisized (or was) a personal attack? 

Wiki is gaining a reputation for being heavilty left wing, and i believe how the white house visit was framed is just good example of political agents high jacking non political profiles to push their agenda.

Anohter example, on the [[United States women's national ice hockey team]] profile, the there's a whole paragraph for the first black hockey player, but zero mention of any of the founding members. Bet you couldn't even name them. Heck, the only time a person is mentioned, it's for political reasons and talking point pushing. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 15:38, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

look, i'm not agianst mentioninng it, but it takes up a huuuge part of a personal section that isn't even personal life related. many of the players don't even have anything in the personal life section than some twitter level outrage he said she said. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 15:38, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

it looks bad, and reads like a cheap, low effort political pamphlet[[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 15:38, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

:Like I said above, {{tq|This in itself could have been sorted out on talk pages}} - the content dispute is unrelated to this AN/I report. We were in the middle of talking about the content, and I told you that you can include content if it is backed up by a reliable source. The problem is not your opinion of the article, it's the fact that you are attacking other users. I was talking to you about content and you called me a nazi because I'm fine with the [[singular they]], and you were rude to someone else simply because they have [[Template:User straightnotnarrow|a userbox]] that reads "{{tq|This user is '''[[Heterosexuality|straight]]''' but not '''[[Homophobia|narrow]]'''}}". You are clearly incapable of interacting with people on this project without being weird. [[User:Bugghost|<span style="font-weight:bold;color:#f50">BugGhost</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Bugghost|🦗👻]] 16:16, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

:: more dishonest framing. never called you a nazi. i was refering to how agressively political those symbols are. and people who arent agressively political, dont put those up on their wiki profile, or X or bluesky. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 16:52, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:: when the user that make these edits is obviously a political user and the ones gatekeeping his edits have symbols and slogans that are associated with thier political movements, I saw the writing on the wall

:: you'er also trying to paint me as someone who's reverting all the time. you put 4 notices on my page, when one was more than enough since i pay attention. but in the manner you did it, makes it seem like you been trying to get my attention and failing. which was not the case. manipulating my talk profile as if i was some edit warring user. i am not. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 16:52, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:::I didn't put 4 notices on your page - I wrote [[Special:Diff/1343501274|one message to discuss why I reverted some of your changes]]. If you are referring to [[Special:Diff/1343636836|these notices that you reverted]], they were made by {{u|Sbaio}} and {{u|Llammakey}}, not me. [[User:Bugghost|<span style="font-weight:bold;color:#f50">BugGhost</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Bugghost|🦗👻]] 17:10, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

I'd '''Support''' a block for for At0068308 per [[WP:NOTHERE]]. as Bughost said above {{tq|You are clearly incapable of interacting with people on this project without being weird.}} and they are being pretty generous with just saying "weird". I'd call it bigotry. [[User:LakesideMiners|<b><span style="color:#6E4600">LakesideMiners</span></b>]]<sup>[[User_Talk:LakesideMiners|Come Talk To Me!]] </sup> 16:45, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
: and there you go.... 'if you disagree you must be a bigot' [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 16:52, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::Negative comments about someone's gender identity is bigotry. [[User:LakesideMiners|<b><span style="color:#6E4600">LakesideMiners</span></b>]]<sup>[[User_Talk:LakesideMiners|Come Talk To Me!]] </sup> 17:37, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::: you'll be happy to find out '''i didn't make any negative comments''' about anyones gender idenity. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 17:41, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::You may think you're being slick but it fools nobody. [[User:Athanelar|Athanelar]] ([[User talk:Athanelar|talk]]) 18:04, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::: what are you refering to? or is this your 'slick way' of trying to call me a bigot?[[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 18:10, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::The part that makes you a bigot is that you decide somebody is a 'political agent' because their userpage says their pronouns and you've decided "pronouns are politicised". [[User:Athanelar|Athanelar]] ([[User talk:Athanelar|talk]]) 18:24, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::: and [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks]] goes straight out the window. thank you for showing your true colors. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 18:33, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::: and pronouns are most definitely politicised, and i didn't make that decision. according to the [[British Psychological Society]] ''Pronouns in political speech are commonly used by politicians to construct favorable images of themselves and others (Bramley, 2001)''. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 18:38, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::You understand that something from 2001 was most definitely not talking about politicians using ''gender pronouns,'' to "virtue signal to the left" or whatever, right? Pronouns include words like "you" "us" "them" and I can guarantee you with 100% certainty that's what the study is talking about. [[User:Athanelar|Athanelar]] ([[User talk:Athanelar|talk]]) 18:46, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::: just like the black white american flag with the blue line, gender identity flags/pronouns are also used by activists to signal each other political leanings. usualy of the extreme/ very agressive variety. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 18:40, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::"I'm not a bigot, I just think the pride flag represents an extreme/very aggressive political ideology." Sure, man. [[User:Athanelar|Athanelar]] ([[User talk:Athanelar|talk]]) 18:47, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::: So if I point out a [[swastika]] in someones profile might represent someone, who is politically aggressive, i'm a bigot against nazis or hindus (note the difference)? sure, 'budy'! Keep your personal attacks to yourself. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 18:51, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::A swastika represents a political group that systematically murdered millions of people. A pride flag represents being LGBT. The first is a problem, the second one is harmless. Are you ok? [[User:Bugghost|<span style="font-weight:bold;color:#f50">BugGhost</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Bugghost|🦗👻]] 19:07, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::: and a swastika represents hundreds of millions of hindus. a flag/symbol can be 2 things at once. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 19:14, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

: and suprise suprise, another highly political gender identity flag on the profile. no bias in your assesment either, right? [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 16:55, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::{{nacmt}} Everyone has ''some'' bias, even you. Making comments about others' identities as an [[ad hominem]] attack to discredit their argument is [[WP:ADHOMINEM|not permitted]]. See also [[Wikipedia:Hate is disruptive]]. [[User:OutsideNormality|OutsideNormality]] ([[User talk:OutsideNormality|talk]]) 17:27, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::: sure, i agree everyone has bias, but ganging up and gatekeeping content that is obviously written in a very specific political framing crosses a line (WP:NOTHERE) [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 17:41, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
And of course nothign on the fact you've made the [[United States women's national ice hockey team]] 'history' section into a 'political slogan' section [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 17:02, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:I've reviewed the text you removed from that page. It's certainly ''about'' a political controversy, but I don't see which part of it was itself political slogans. It seemed to be a reasonably neutrally phrased, factual, and well-sourced account of the controversy. Can you clarify which bit, specifically, you are referring to as a 'slogan'? [[User:GenevieveDEon|GenevieveDEon]] ([[User talk:GenevieveDEon|talk]]) 18:29, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:: Sorry, didnt realize your comment. Example: ''Members of the team including captain Meghan Duggan made public statements regarding poor pay and conditions for female hockey players.'' read like a personal promo page using all the right buzzwords.[[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 19:10, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:::It's literally just a factual account of what was said. [[User:GenevieveDEon|GenevieveDEon]] ([[User talk:GenevieveDEon|talk]]) 19:15, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:::: not the point. we could make the entire page an exhaustive trove of quotes, even more for the mens sections, since the team existed throughout most of the 20th century. Through [[Stalin]], [[Hitler]], [[Mao]], Castro, etc. no other quotes are mentioned. why not? [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 19:29, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::You keep mentioning 20th century dictators, who have nothing to do with the subject under discussion. Looking through your edit summaries on the hockey team page, I saw that you name-checked Hitler there, in a most confusing way, as well. [[User:GenevieveDEon|GenevieveDEon]] ([[User talk:GenevieveDEon|talk]]) 20:20, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:: that by it self wouldn't even be an issue. so much focus on politics, zero mentions of anything regarding the previous golds or any of the founding members. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 19:09, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::long paragraphs regarding What trump said and on each and every US team players profile copy pasting the same favorite buzzwords (due to backlash...). essentially, no anti trump statement? then guilt by association and make it seem like a general backlash.  [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 19:09, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:: it's comes off to anyone who isn't knee deep in political agenda pushing the only reason the paragraph it self was created is to tie it to kash patel/trump. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 19:09, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:::I have no idea why you put this in four separate replies to me. I find this characterisation of the text to be extremely tenuous. [[User:GenevieveDEon|GenevieveDEon]] ([[User talk:GenevieveDEon|talk]]) 19:15, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::I assumed it would make it easier to read, than a blob of words. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 19:31, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
Most of the edits are clearly as you said, [[WP:NOTHERE]] and the personal life sections of players that seem to revolve around trump now are [[Wp:BADFAITH]]. keep it to topic (in this case, player or hockey). not everything has to be political. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 17:04, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:What is political about telling people how you should be addressed? I can't tell from your user id whether you are a man or a woman, so I don't know how to refer to you. [[User:Phil Bridger|Phil Bridger]] ([[User talk:Phil Bridger|talk]]) 17:18, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

:: this isn't an issue of adressing someone or pronouns. pronouns '''''can''''' be political signaling, as can gay/trans/other sexuality flags. in this case i believe it is. when a group of users who have political signals (that imply similar political bias), gang up on a user (giving the immpression of general outrage/wrongdoing) it's obviously political. [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 17:35, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

:: as a user pointed out above, my page got bombed with edit warring notices, one more severe than the last, when i wasnt edit warring with them. it's obviously a pile on. why? [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 17:37, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:::I noticed an editor confusing the contemporary politics of equal respect and inclusion, with the politics of contemporary neo-nazis and their fear of pronouns, and thought this might help with their struggle:  [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_a_social_club|maybe it's them, after all]]. [[User:Augmented Seventh|Augmented Seventh]] ([[User talk:Augmented Seventh|talk]]) 19:49, 15 March 2026 (UTC)


=== [[WP:CBAN]] for At006830 ===
At this point it's clear there is no benefit to allowing At006 to keep editing, this entire thread has been nothing but them arguing semantics over whether or not pronouns or gender identity is going to indicate someone's bias. Wether or not that's true is completely irrelevant here. At006s bigoted behavior, edit waring, personal attacks, and bludgeoning of this discussion shows they are not here in good faith. As such, I propose a CBAN. [[User:LakesideMiners|<b><span style="color:#6E4600">LakesideMiners</span></b>]]<sup>[[User_Talk:LakesideMiners|Come Talk To Me!]] </sup> 19:47, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

: edit warring? nope! never happened
: bigot? well it's a politically motivated dog piling, so of course you use that terminology.
: Personal attacks? i'm the one who was labeled a 'bigot' for what? pray tell.
: It's an obviously politiclally motivated dog piling. don't like that we make every hockey players personal life section about trump BAN HIM BAN HIM [[User:At0068308|At0068308]] ([[User talk:At0068308|talk]]) 20:06, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
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Since the block was upgraded to indef a TA has been removing the same content on roughly the same reasons and without consensus on [[Matt Boldy]], [[Clayton Keller]] and [[Brady Tkachuk]]. [[User:Borgenland|Borgenland]] ([[User talk:Borgenland|talk]]) 01:14, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
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