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== Susan Albuhawa ==
{{atop|I'm just going to go ahead and close this before it gets into a full blown discussion on the merits, which do NOT belong here.  Take it to the talk page of the article. If there is an existing consensus, it needs to be respected until a new consensus is formed.  At this point, there isn't anything an admin needs to do.  [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 10:46, 14 March 2026 (UTC)}}
Regarding activist Susan Abulhawa controversies regarding statements on the Ukraine war and criticism from Ukrainian activists, @[[User:Raskolnikov.Rev|Raskolnikov.Rev]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Susan_Abulhawa&diff=prev&oldid=1313456524 repeatedly] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Susan_Abulhawa&diff=prev&oldid=1313846513 removed] any mention of this controversy from the page on the basis that there was no "sustained coverage". Despite being presented with evidence that it was mentioned in news stories over the next few years, the editor did not budge. It was also suggested by another editor that her remarks on the [[Talk:Susan Abulhawa#Discuss her antisemitism and hate speech|2025 Capital Jewish Museum shooting]] had been removed without sensible reason. Does it make any sense that a highly covered story bear no mention on a biography page whatsoever, not even when one edit I added regarding the controversy was just [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Susan_Abulhawa&diff=prev&oldid=1323367285 2 sentences long]? [[User:JPHC2003|JPHC2003]] ([[User talk:JPHC2003|talk]]) 07:41, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

:Those two links are from September 2025, over 5 months ago. I see there was discussion at [[Talk:Susan Abulhawa#Ukraine controversy]] but the last comment there was December 2025. Is there anything newer than that? [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] (#1 deranged), [[User talk:CambridgeBayWeather|Uqaqtuq (talk)]], [[Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather|Huliva]] 08:48, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
*As {{u|CambridgeBayWeather}} points out, there was a discussion, and you can always start a new one on the talk page to seek consensus.  There isn't anything here in the report that indicates admins need to get involved, as they don't determine content.  Unless you show edit warring or some other behavioral issue that actually breaches policy, it isn't ripe for discussion here.  [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 08:57, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

:@[[User:JPHC2003|JPHC2003]] is misrepresenting the edits in question and the challenge of it by myself and other editors, and the fact that I am the only one being addressed here when other editors agreed with me is odd. He is also not adhering to the standard consensus-building process by seeking to obtain consensus for his edit through discussion and, if that fails, an RfC, instead making what appears to be a frivolous case here over what is a standard content dispute. Furthermore, he is resurrecting an issue from over 5 months ago, making it also likely stale.
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:As [[Talk:Susan Abulhawa#c-Raskolnikov.Rev-20250928123100-JPHC2003-20250926175200|I noted in the discussion]] which for some reason JPHC did not link, the content JPHC sought to include in my view fails [[WP:RECENTISM]], [[WP:BLP]], [[WP:DUE]], [[WP:NOTABILITY]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]] standards. I cite from the relevant policies in my response. Another editor [[Talk:Susan Abulhawa#c-JFHJr-20251124055700-JPHC2003-20251123041900|agreed with me]]. Furthermore, [[Talk:Susan Abulhawa#c-Raskolnikov.Rev-20251124110500-JPHC2003-20251124083200|I noted]] that the specific edit in question fails [[WP:NPOV]] by only including the critical POV of the subject of the BLP, despite the source he himself cited for it including a response.
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:Regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Susan_Abulhawa&diff=prev&oldid=1308397320 the other edit] I challenged, this is also misrepresented. I invite editors to look at [[Talk:Susan Abulhawa#Discuss her antisemitism and hate speech|the rationale that was presented for it]] by that editor [[Talk:Susan Abulhawa#c-Raskolnikov.Rev-20250829082500-DaringDonna-20250829071300|and my challenge of it]] noting that it not only fails the same aforementioned BLP criteria, but also [[WP:NOR]] as it stated in wikivoice what was not in the cited source but drawn from the editor's view of social media posts. This also violates [[WP:V]]. They in my view did not address these substantive objections, instead [[Talk:Susan Abulhawa#c-DaringDonna-20250830195700-Raskolnikov.Rev-20250829082500|mass-linking]] critical pieces about the subject of the BLP, including many deprecated sources, without any serious attempt to show why the inclusion meets BLP, RS and V standards, or suggesting an alternative phrasing that does. Another editor [[Talk:Susan Abulhawa#c-EvansHallBear-20250904175200-DaringDonna-20250830195700|agreed that my objection was legitimate]]. [[User:Raskolnikov.Rev|Raskolnikov.Rev]] ([[User talk:Raskolnikov.Rev|talk]]) 09:00, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
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