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== Repeated disruptive reverts by User:Kwamikagami on “Dagbanli language” article ==
{{atop|status=Closing this before boomerangs start flying|1=As a reminder, Wikipedia is not a place to [[WP:RGW|right great wrongs]], and exceeding [[WP:3RR]] while doing so is not a good look. - [[User:The Bushranger|The Bushranger]] <sub>[[User talk:The Bushranger|<span style="color: maroon;">One ping only</span>]]</sub> 23:39, 15 March 2026 (UTC)}}
I would like to request administrative attention regarding the editing behavior of [[User:Kwamikagami]] on the article currently titled “Dagbanli language” (formerly “Dagbani language”).

Over the past several edits, the user has repeatedly (and you can see similar patterns on other African lanaguge articles of which he is clearly not a speaker of any but wrestles control over):

* reverted good‑faith corrections to the article title and content
* restored the colonial exonym “Dagbani” despite multiple explanations that the endonym used by native speakers is Dagbanli
* refused to engage in substantive discussion on the talk page
* dismissed local linguistic expertise and imposed their own preferred colonial terminology
* engaged in ownership‑like behavior, reverting immediately without consensus
* ignored requests to discuss the matter in depth before making further reverts

I am a native speaker of the language and have provided context, sources, and explanations for the correct endonym. This is passionate discussion in the Dagbanli community where we're trying our best to correct these colonial legacies on the internet starting from the Wiki projects where we can directly participate. The user has not provided counter reasonging beside saying "this is English", and instead continues to revert without meaningful dialogue.

; Broader context

It is worth noting that Wikimedia has a long history of updating language names to reflect accurate endonyms, and many communities (including European ones) have successfully transitioned away from outdated or colonial exonyms.

In this context, the repeated reversion of endonym‑based corrections, without discussion or engagement, has the effect of undermining African editors, whose languages have historically been written and described by outsiders like Kwamikagami.

For those of us who are finally able to participate and correct long‑standing inaccuracies, this pattern of unilateral reverts by non‑speakers is discouraging and risks pushing out the very contributors who can provide accurate, community‑based knowledge. I am requesting admin intervention to:

* Ask the user to stop reverting without discussion
* Encourage them to participate in talk‑page consensus‑building

I am happy to provide diffs of the repeated reverts and attempts at discussion if needed.

Thank you for your attention. -[[User:Masssly|&#45;Masssly]] ([[User talk:Masssly|talk]]) 14:24, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:As I've noted at [[Talk:Dagbani_language#Title_change?]], neither editor here has engaged on the talk page, and it falls to Masssly at this time to make their case for their changes on the talk page. Other than Masssly's own [[WP:CUTPASTE]], which I've reverted and I expect should not be an issue going forward, this is a content dispute. <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 14:34, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::Masssly is now edit warring, so a [[WP:BOOMERANG]] may be appropriate if they don't change course. <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 14:43, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:::{{yo|Rosguill }} maybe partial block both from the article? <small>{{ping|Bishonen}} says I'm less patient than I used to be.</small> [[User:Deepfriedokra|&#45;-  the former admin Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 18:38, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::::The status quo has been restored by another editor, so I'm hoping that maybe everyone involved can make their way to the talk page rather than edit warring, without requiring blocks. <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 19:25, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

{{ping|Masssly}} We have an article on [[German language]], not on "Deutsch"; likewise for "French", not "français", "Russian", not "russki", Chinese, not "Zhōngwén", "Welsh", not "Cymru", and so on and so on... Unless there are specific reasons for doing otherwise, Wikipedia's naming system uses the name most commonly used and understood in English. Neither for languages, for religions, for businesses, nor for anything else does Wikipedia give priority to how insiders prefer their subject to be presented to how it is usually presented by outsiders. You are, of course, perfectly free to propose changes to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, to require naming of articles to promote the preferences of involved people such as nationalists, but unless and until such changes are made, you should accept those policies and guidelines ''as they are'', not as you would like them to be. I also note that you have criticised {{u|Kwamikagami}} for "unilaterally" changing relevant content of the article. You changed the name of the language without, as far as I can see, consultation or discussion, and subsequently you have repeated the change several times, despite being reverted by three different editors, and as far as I can see without being supported by anyone else. If you disapprove of unilateral changes of titles then I'm not sure you have a leg to stand on. [[User:JBW|JBW]] ([[User talk:JBW|talk]]) 20:38, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

If there is a campaign to change the English name of the language, and it is picked up on by reliable sources (especially secondary sources such as other encyclopedias, ISO, Glottolog etc.), then Wikipedia will generally follow suite. You can even lead that campaign yourself, and if you're successful, we'll move the article accordingly. But we follow [[WP:COMMONNAME]], not [[WP:TRUTH]]. [[User:Kwamikagami|— kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 22:01, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

:{{tq|follow suite}} [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/follow%20suit] [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-92659-0|&#126;2026-92659-0]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-92659-0|talk]]) 22:27, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
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