Editing Talk:Quicksilver (Marvel Comics) (section)

==Ultimate==

Can 'someone' please stop removing all sourced and relevant detail in the Ultimate section? Every Ultimate Marvel character from [[Ultimate Nick Fury]] to [[Ultimate Captain America]] has a description of what part the character actually plays in the narrative. If you remove that, then what is the point of even having the section. Removing accurate, sourced, necessary information does not improve the article; it greatly hinders it. [[Special:Contributions/195.194.150.129|195.194.150.129]] ([[User talk:195.194.150.129|talk]]) 16:29, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
*This is information is already at a gist. Putting in relevant information in is not 'fanish'. Go to any character's Ultimate section and I guaranty that it actually allows the reader to know what part the character played in the narrative. Just stating that the character is fast does not give people any information at all about the character. There is no reason why this cannot be in. If you have any problems with this, leave a detailed comment on this talk page, as opposed to reverting edits with pointless summaries.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/195.194.150.129|195.194.150.129]] ([[User talk:195.194.150.129|talk]]) 09:29, 24 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

===Zombie===
'Quicksilver is eventually lured into a trap by the Earth-616 Machine Man and while destroyed[51] eventually returns.[52]'

This sentence is wrong. They are two completely different characters, however your sentence states that the same character later returns, however it is a completely different version of the character from another universe. This sentence is completely incorrect.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/195.194.150.129|195.194.150.129]] ([[User talk:195.194.150.129|talk]]) 09:24, 24 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:'Quicksilver is eventually lured into a trap by the Earth-616 Machine Man and while destroyed another alternate universe eventually appears'
:Is an incredibly sloppy way of putting this, and gives absolutely no information. It is worded confusingly. He is destroyed but an alternate universe appears? What exactly is that supposed to mean? The information has not been 'corrected', it has been made even more confusing and wrong than the last edit. If all you are going to do is remove relevant information without giving any reason, then please stop editing.
:I have given a variety of valid, appropriate reasons as to why this information is needed, but you seem completely unable to even form one reasonable sentence on this talk page as to why you keep deleting stuff. You are not improving this article. Stop reverting edits that contain necessary, sourced information and start commenting on this talk page. Explain yourself properly so that everyone can understand your stance. [[Special:Contributions/195.194.150.129|195.194.150.129]] ([[User talk:195.194.150.129|talk]]) 10:24, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

* Firstly, I'd suggest taking the emotion out of it. I'd also have a hard look at what you are reverting and you have removed legitimate sources. Now, I've expanded slightly on the zombies section, but that it all that is required. Again, we don't tell the story here. A brief and concise Plot Summary (without fannish overdetail) should be available at the article page for this series. That is where the information is expanded. 

There is a more information in the Ultimate section, but once again, the real detail belongs at the various Ultimate pages. 

Also, note that we just list the dates for a series from start to finish, not an entire choppy sequence of starts and stops that unfortunately was the Ultimates series. I was the editor that originally sourced and placed those dates, and now realize it is not the correct way to list the series. 

Thank you. [[User:Asgardian|Asgardian]] ([[User talk:Asgardian|talk]]) 04:22, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

: Further to this, if you have any questions, just ask. All I'd say is just keep your tone neutral and be careful not to revert legitimate technical changes. [[User:Asgardian|Asgardian]] ([[User talk:Asgardian|talk]]) 04:40, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

**There is no emotion in this text. At all. The tone could not be any more neutral, as all it does is plainly describe what part the character played in the narrative, which is important for readers. Wikipedia is about giving information. What sources have I removed? How much sourced information have you removed with little explaination?

**The way you left it now is wrong. Ultimate Quicksilver is not dead. If he were, he would not have been able to kill Moira or Cyclops, would he? You keep just removing correct information and replacing it with stuff that is just plain wrong.

**Alternate reality versions of characters get seperate sections. MZ Quicksilver is not the same as MZR Quicksilver, so a seperate section is needed.

**Also, not including relevant character information and just saying 'oh, well the Ultimates articles contain more stuff' is wrong. If that was the case, then why bother describing anything that 616 Quicksilver does? Go to any character's Ultimate section, or any alternate version of the character for that matter. Will the section contain actual, correct information about the character? Yes, of course it will.

**You keep saying that you are correcting details, but all you are doing is removing relevant, correct details and replacing them with vague, wrong details.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/195.194.150.129|195.194.150.129]] ([[User talk:195.194.150.129|talk]]) 11:30, 26 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

* You are required to sign all posts. Thank you. [[User:Asgardian|Asgardian]] ([[User talk:Asgardian|talk]]) 20:47, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

**That's more of a general guideline than requirement.
**You did not address any of these points, which leads me to believe that you have no comeback.
**Which means that you are removing relevant information for no reason.
**Which is purposefully decreasing this article's quality.
**Which is vandalism.
**You are required not to vandalize Wikipedia's articles.[[Special:Contributions/195.194.150.129|195.194.150.129]] ([[User talk:195.194.150.129|talk]]) 10:54, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

* Actually it is a requirement to sign all posts. It is also common courtesy. Your assumptions aside, you've removed accurate and sourced information that reflects the changes in the Ultimates storyline, without being fannish or colloquial. I would think that the death of Quicksilver's sibling and death of father which forces him into the same role as being very relevant and far from being vandalism. Also, that's all that is needed for the MZR section. [[User:Asgardian|Asgardian]] ([[User talk:Asgardian|talk]]) 13:05, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

: Can you explain why you made a blind revert and did not address the above? [[User:Asgardian|Asgardian]] ([[User talk:Asgardian|talk]]) 02:09, 31 March 2010 (UTC)