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== Ahri Boy ==

Last week, [[User talk:Kurzon#March 2026|Kurzon was indeffed]] for "long-term edit warring issues, battleground editing, and personal attacks". This was noticed by {{user1|Ahri Boy}}, who started to engage on Kurzon's talk page in a way that I think was intended to get them to accept the block and take the standard offer, but ended up prolonging the discussion unnecessarily; at one point, Ahri Boy [[User talk:Kurzon#c-Ahri Boy-20260311111400-Blue-Sonnet-20260311074200|told them to appeal on UTRS]] despite there being no reason the request couldn't be public. I'm bringing this here because this isn't the first time Ahri Boy has engaged in a user-conduct discussion in good faith but ultimately unhelpfully, mostly at AN and ANI.

* Ahri Boy's first comments in discussions often show that they've missed some fundamental details about the thread:
** Ahri Boy has a tendency to leap right to supporting harsh sanctions without reading the evidence, including cases where the diffs [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1172#c-Phil Bridger-20241123200000-Tercer-20241123135700|don't hold up]] (Nov. 2024), [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1209#c-Ahri Boy-20251209150400-Tankishguy-20251209140400|don't relate to this project]] (Dec. 2025), or [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1185#c-Ahri Boy-20250420030500-Chicdat-20250419221400|haven't even been supplied]] (Apr. 2025).
** Jul. 2025: Ahri Boy tried to get an AN filer to back off of their claims by saying the reported edits were verified by reliable sources, which – [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive372#c-CoffeeCrumbs-20250714145200-Ahri Boy-20250714142900|as CoffeeCrumbs pointed out]] – would have been impossible to conclude from looking at the first diff, which inserted a near-pure statement of opinion on Zionism into mainspace.
** Dec. 2024: In one thread about a group of editors' poor copyediting, Ahri Boy chimed in to [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive367#c-Ahri Boy-20241207110400-GiantSnowman-20241207100000|ask if that group had been warned repeatedly]]; reading the title of the thread would have shown that it was a follow-up to [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive367#New seemingly-related group of good-faith but deleterious West African copyeditors|another thread on the same page]], where they were, in fact, warned repeatedly.
** Aug. 2024: In a thread asking for someone to be blocked as an impersonator of a retired user, Ahri Boy [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1165#c-Ahri Boy-20240831092200-Cordless Larry-20240831075100|responded to say that the retired user was retired]], which had already been said.
** Ahri Boy was [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1172#c-Phil Bridger-20241123200000-Tercer-20241123135700|warned]] (Nov. 2024) by [[User:Phil Bridger|Phil Bridger]] and [[meta:User_talk:Ahri_Boy#c-SHB2000-20250202212100-Blocked|blocked on metawiki]] (Feb. 2025) for this exact behavior.
* Ahri Boy's advice to sanctioned users ranges from "not quite on point" to "actively harmful if followed", including heavy emphasis on the standard offer even when it it's questionable (as seen with Kurzon):
** Jul. 2025: When a user posted appallingly racist rhetoric, [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1194#c-Ahri Boy-20250710025900-Yagiv-20250710023500|Ahri told them to come back in six months]]. Ahri then told them to not come back ... when Ahri found out they were mentally ill, which <em>isn't</em> blockable.
** Dec. 2025: When [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1208#c-Ahri Boy-20251208223500-Saifyalakmar|Ahri Boy reported a user]] for repeated declined unblock requests on sock accounts, their solution was again the standard offer. ([[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] reminded them that unblock requests don't need to be forwarded to ANI automatically.)
** Oct. 2024: When another editor said that they'd been blocked on a very old prior acct and wanted to appeal, Ahri Boy [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive366#c-Ahri Boy-20241026010700-Alpha3031-20241026005800|told them to just keep editing]]; another editor reminded Ahri that this would be socking.
** [[User:Liz|Liz]] and [[User:Star Mississippi|Star Mississippi]] both [[User talk:Ahri Boy/Archive 1#WP:AN|warned Ahri Boy]] (Dec. 2025 – Jan. 2026) for their engagement with unblock requests and oversharing, which they have also had a history of. (More examples of questionable engagement with unblocks can be found through that link.)
* Even aside from those, Ahri Boy makes poor calls pretty frequently in projectspace:
** Dec. 2025: Ahri Boy [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1209#c-Ahri Boy-20251214174000-~2025-40667-20-20251214162700|implied that we should be looser on one subject's BLP protections]] because "her LA home has a lot of safeguards".
** Oct. 2025: Ahri Boy [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Larry Sanger/Nine Theses (2nd nomination)|filed an MfD on that Larry Sanger essay]] just <em>hours</em> after the first one was closed with consensus to keep.
** Dec. 2024: In response to the question "how much of a Nazi does one need to be before [[WP:NONAZIS]] applies?", Ahri Boy replied "[[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive367#c-Ahri Boy-20241208132300-HappyBeachDreams-20241208034300|enough to be indeffed]]", which feels pretty tautological.

I hope it's clear that these aren't mild, isolated incidents, and that I'm not dropping this on someone out of nowhere. As much as Ahri Boy is clearly here in good faith and that should be recognize, they've also been warned by several admins on two projects for several pretty appalling instances of engaging without understanding the issues at play or how to resolve them. I haven't even gotten into [https://sigma.toolforge.org/usersearch.py?name=Qwerfjkl+%28bot%29&page=User+talk%3AAhri+Boy&server=enwiki&max= their frequent CS1 errors], their questionable redirects ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&end=&namespace=0&newOnly=1&start=&tagfilter=&target=Ahri+Boy&offset=&limit=500 1] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ADeletedContributions&target=Ahri_Boy&namespace=0&tagfilter=&newOnly=1&start=&end=&limit=50 2] [[Special:Diff/1329807303|3]]), or their record with images ([[Special:Diff/1329997843|4]] [[Special:Diff/1328461393|5]] [[Special:Diff/1322849715|6]] [[Special:Diff/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User talk:Explicit#c-Ahri Boy-20251231042600-File:Pikabu Screenshot.png|7]] [[Special:Diff/1329021342|8]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=File%3ABritish+passport+%28Series+C%29+biographical+data+%282020%29.png&timestamp=20251204120011&diff=prev 9]). They do seem to do pretty okay at AIV and mainspace as mentioned above, so maybe there's some narrowing that can be done, but the projectspace participation has been like this for a while and the warnings don't seem to have worked. [[user:theleekycauldron|theleekycauldron]] ([[User talk:Theleekycauldron|talk]] • she/her) 23:27, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:<s>In some cases, I'd consider taking a full break after a months of translation, and cleanup.</s> As for alt text revisions, it was useful for those who have visual impairments reading on mobile. I made some mistakes before and I distanced from them slowly. <s>If I would decide to return from a break, I could continue making articles as long as the areas I am working on aren't contentious enough.</s>{{pb}}P.S.: Taking these as a lesson not to cross boundaries too much. I could have been [[WP:BOLD|bold]] and not to be [[WP:CIR|incompetent]] when dealing with issues I am not directly involved.{{pb}}As someone who has [[autism-spectrum disorder]], it's not really easy to [[wikipedia:Apology|apologize]] for what I've made before, and such mistakes may accidentally happen again at anytime. I would best be careful when finding a solution to disputes. [[User:Ahri Boy|Ahri Boy]] ([[User talk:Ahri Boy|talk]]) 00:10, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
:I have encountered Ahri Boy once before at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ToadetteEdit&diff=prev&oldid=1327698459 ToadetteEdit's talk page], and found their response there to be  tautological  and also somewhat bizarre, since an admin had already told Toadette to wait a significant amount of time to appeal their CBAN. While I haven't done an in-depth look at all of the diffs yet, I do have concerns about Ahri Boy's contributions to areas related to user conduct, and warnings generally seem to be insufficient at discouraging this behavior. In retrospect, I probably should have asked Ahri Boy to remove their own comment and come to their talk page regarding my concerns. They are clearly here in good faith, but I still find problems with their editing that haven't been adequately resolved. [[User:Fathoms Below|<span style="color:light blue;"><span style="font-size:110%">''Fathoms Below''</span></span>]] [[User talk:Fathoms Below|<span style="color:brown;"><span style="font-size:85%;">(talk)</span></span>]] 00:56, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
::I should also have not written the advice at that time. But you made the call by removing it in good faith. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ahri_Boy/Archive_1&oldid=1343523651#more_clear_warning two diffs] at [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] were made when I am stressed out that time. [[User:Ahri Boy|Ahri Boy]] ([[User talk:Ahri Boy|talk]]) 01:07, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
:At times I think they're a young editor who is in over their head when it comes to project space. At [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2025_December_12#c-Ahri_Boy-20251217215000-Carrite-20251217202400 others] I think they're badly trolling. It would probably be easiest for all involved if @[[User:Ahri Boy|Ahri Boy]] stays out of project space and admin adjacent areas and just focused on content, but I'm not sure they're willing to do so. [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 01:41, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
::@[[User:Ahri Boy|Ahri Boy]] I think you inadvertently prolonged/exacerbated the situation on Kurzon's Talk page - comments like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKurzon&diff=1343518039&oldid=1343515584 this one] were rather antagonistic & weren't really helpful to an editor who was upset over being blocked and losing access to an account they had for two decades. Asking a direct question then telling them to stop editing in the very next sentence wasn't helpful and almost guaranteed to cause some sort of emotional response. 
::Blocks are especially tricky, since you're dealing with someone who's already broken P&G's and often isn't in a positive frame of mind; they're already in a bad situation, so if you say or do the wrong thing then you could accidentally make things a lot worse for them. 
::I know it's often much harder to understand social cues when you're neurodivergent - on Wikipedia it's even more difficult because you've only got written text to go off. We're already at a bit of a disadvantage, so it's really important to understand where our weaknesses and limits are.
::Would you agree to stick to basic article editing and refrain from projects/admin areas like Star suggested, at least until you get more experience? [[User:Blue-Sonnet|Blue Sonnet]] ([[User talk:Blue-Sonnet|talk]]) 03:53, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Alright. I spent a month on translating articles from vi.wp, and stopped short for a while. [[User:Ahri Boy|Ahri Boy]] ([[User talk:Ahri Boy|talk]]) 05:07, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
::::Came across this discussion from somewhere unrelated. @Blue Sonnet came to mind as somebody who contributes to unblock requests in an extremely professional and respectful manner. @Ahri Boy, some of your comments, like the one on @TE's talk page about a "jianghu", are definitely not helpful. Probably best to stick to article space for the time being, rather than administrative areas of the project. Maybe take a look through @Blue Sonnet's edit history to get a feel of what advice is appropriate to give in specific scenarios. Best of luck to you either way! [[User:11WB|<span style="color:#8C6A31; ">11WB</span>]] ([[User talk:11WB|talk]])  17:03, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::{{non-admin comment}} Came across this discussion while searching for an unrelated past discussion I was involved in. @[[User:Ahri Boy|Ahri Boy]], your edits are clearly in good faith, some evidence of which can be seen at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1213#Concern%20regarding%20Iruka13], but I still think that based on the above it may be best for you to refrain from participating in administrative areas for the time being. Of course, if you have any questions you can always ask an admin on their talk page. That'll be all from me in this discussion. Best of luck to you! <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; border-radius:35% 0; font-weight:bold; background:linear-gradient(300deg,#ff0d00,#1AD); color:#fff; padding:2px 5px;">[[User:Gommeh|<span style="color: white;">Gommeh</span>]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:Gommeh|<span style="color:white;">talk!</span>]]&nbsp;[[User:Gommeh/Guestbook|<span style="color:white;">sign!</span>]])</sup></span> 18:19, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::As someone on the Spectrum, I feel like if your disorder makes you incapable of not disrupting Wikipedia, then perhaps you should find some other hobby or curtail your activities on Wikipedia to those you can undertake without disrupting Wikipedia. [[User:Deepfriedokra|&#45;-  the former admin Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 20:20, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::Agree wit {{ping|theleekycauldron }} concerning curtailment. [[User:Deepfriedokra|&#45;-  the former admin Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 20:23, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
:I've seen Ahri Boy around a bit, and noticed that he does many "me too" edits, that he then does not explain. This was the basis of the question I asked him which was noted by the OP. Ahri Boy, if you can't contribute some original thought to a discussion then it's best to stay silent. I know I'm not the world's best role model, but I read many more discussions than I contribute to. [[User:Phil Bridger|Phil Bridger]] ([[User talk:Phil Bridger|talk]]) 20:47, 16 March 2026 (UTC) P.S. You are far from alone in having autism-spectrum disorder. I sometimes think that I'm the only neurotypical one here!
::<small>"(DITTO: Use it! The mental process involved is exactly analogous to the bandwidth-saving technique employed for your phone. If you’ve seen the scene you’ve seen the scene, and there’s too much new information for you to waste time looking it over more than once. Use “ditto”. ''Use'' it!—The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan)"  --<i> [[Stand on Zanzibar]]</i>. [[John Brunner]].</small> [[User:Deepfriedokra|&#45;-  the former admin Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 21:03, 16 March 2026 (UTC)