Editing Talk:Upiór (section)

== Is Upiór the [[WP:CNAME|common name]]? ==

The article is presently under a Polish title. Is this Polish term the common name for the topic? As opposed to the Eastern Slavic [[Upyr]] (redirect to this article) or South Slavic [[Vampir]] (which is a redirect to [[Vampire]])?

I'm unsure if this article needs to be moved to another title or simply merged with [[Vampire]] which already discusses etymology and folk beliefs, so that all the Slavic terms point to the same article. – [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 15:57, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

:Another idea might be to have three articles:
:# one the Turkic terms/folklore titled something like [[Vampires in Turkic folklore]]
:# another on the Slavic terms/folklore titled [[Vampires in Slavic folklore]]
:# finally, [[Vampire]], as a general article which links to the first two in its relevant sections.
:– [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 16:00, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
::It says in the lead section of [[Upiór]]: {{userquote|'''Upiór''' is a demonic being from [[Slavs|Slavic]] and [[Turkic peoples|Turkic]] folklore, a prototype of the [[vampire]].}}
::Therefore, it is not referring to the [[vampire]], but to a ''prototype'' of it. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/SeaDragon1|contributions]]) 22:04, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
:::However, yes, it could be merged in [[Vampire]] as a different section. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/SeaDragon1|contributions]]) 22:04, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
::::{{reply|SeaDragon1}} "Prototype" means "original form". The original form of a vampire is still a vampire, and the description given here is of an undead corpse that drinks human blood, ie. a vampire; plus the various names here include the etymon of the English word ''vampire'' and its cognates in other languages. If you support a merge, please [[#Merge proposal into Vampire|see the discussion below]]. – [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 22:47, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, well they seem to me like different concepts. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/SeaDragon1|contributions]]) 22:51, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::On what basis? What makes them different? – [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 22:53, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::{{shrug}} [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/SeaDragon1|contributions]]) 22:35, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::As an aside, I'm not entirely convinced that the opening line is particularly good. I'm not aware of vampires in Slavic folklore being identified as "demonic beings", for example, but I don't have access to the source referenced so can't check it to see if I should rewrite the line (assuming the article isn't merged or the line is preserved after a merge). – [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 22:51, 5 March 2026 (UTC)