Editing Talk:Psychogenic non-epileptic seizure (section)

==Suggested rename to "Functional/dissociative seizures"==
ILAE is suggesting renaming to Functional/dissociative seizures in 2025.[https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/epi.18574]

*Pubmed has about 80 papers that use the term https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Functional%2Fdissociative+seizures
*While Pubmed has >1000 for PNES https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=psychogenic+nonepileptic+seizures

IMO we should wait for the new term to get more traction first. Maybe reasses in a year. 
[[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1; background:#FFFFFF;">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]]) 13:09, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

:I don't think that's quite a fair comparison. Looking at secondary (and therefore likely to be [[WP:MEDRS]]) sources and looking since 2023 [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=%22functional+seizures%22+OR+%22functional+seizure%22&filter=pubt.booksdocs&filter=pubt.meta-analysis&filter=pubt.review&filter=pubt.systematicreview&filter=years.2023-2026&sort=date search terms for functional seizures] have slightly more results [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=%22psychogenic+non-epileptic+seizures%22+OR+%22psychogenic+nonepileptic+seizures%22&filter=pubt.booksdocs&filter=pubt.meta-analysis&filter=pubt.review&filter=pubt.systematicreview&filter=years.2023-2026&sort=date than PNES]. Including terms for Functional Neurological Disorder "AND" seizures and for dissociative seizures gives [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=%28%28%28%22functional+seizures%22%29+OR+%28%22functional+seizure%22%29%29%29+OR+%28%22Functional+neurological+disorder%22+AND+%22seizures%22%29+OR+%22dissociative+seizure%22+OR+%22dissociative+seizures%22&filter=pubt.booksdocs&filter=pubt.meta-analysis&filter=pubt.review&filter=pubt.systematicreview&filter=years.2023-2026&sort=date even more results] compared to PNES (83 vs 48).
:The results on these sorts of checks will depend on the parameters that are chosen, to be fair. I also think Functional Seizures or Functional/Dissociative seizures would be more [[WP:NPOV]] compliant [[User:Tristario|Tristario]] ([[User talk:Tristario|talk]]) 22:58, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
::I think the term functional/dissociative seizures would make the most sense to adopt as the title of this page since this is the term recommended by the International League Against Epilepsy. However, I agree with Doc James that we can wait a year to see the term gain more traction which I expect will happen. Please see the arguments for adopting this term in this paper: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/epi.18574 [[User:JF1987|JF1987]] ([[User talk:JF1987|talk]]) 18:51, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

*ICD11 uses "6B60.4 Dissociative neurological symptom disorder, with non-epileptic seizures"[https://icd.who.int/browse/2026-01/mms/en#1620688958] [[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1; background:#FFFFFF;">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]])