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== Referencing errors on Edward A Braithwaite ==

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The URL I used is correct, I am not sure why it is giving this error. 

Thanks, [[User:AuroraTiara|AuroraTiara]] ([[User talk:AuroraTiara|talk]]) 20:27, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

:You appear to have fixed that problem, [[User:AuroraTiara|AuroraTiara]]. Intrigued by "Westard Ho", I clicked on the link to "RCMP to Honor Pioneer at Funeral Service Saturday". But I arrived at a different newspaper clipping, one with no mention of westardity or westwardity. And something seems odd about "He also was a respected Freemason": Wikipedia doesn't normally say that people were or are respected whatevers. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 00:50, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
::<small>If someone was a disrespected Freemason, would we know? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-76101-8|&#126;2026-76101-8]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-76101-8|talk]]) 02:05, 11 March 2026 (UTC)</small>
::The referencing problems are more serious. Of the 10 references, 6 are wrongly linked to the same newspaper clipping, which says very little about [[Edward A Braithwaite]]. One reference is a map, another also says little about him, leaving only #2. This article was created on Monday, yet it's in mainspace. Should it be draftified until these problems are fixed? [[User:Blackballnz|Blackballnz]] ([[User talk:Blackballnz|talk]]) 08:36, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[User:AuroraTiara|AuroraTiara]] @[[User:Hoary|Hoary]] [[User:Blackballnz|Blackballnz]] ([[User talk:Blackballnz|talk]]) 08:36, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
:::[[User:Blackballnz|Blackballnz]], yes it indeed should. I should have noticed those problems. I have now belatedly moved the article to [[Draft:Edward A. Braithwaite]], where [[User:AuroraTiara|AuroraTiara]], or indeed anyone, is welcome to work on it. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 10:46, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
::::The newspaper articles used as citations actually exist, but the URLs used were duplicated and wound up pointing to the same place. I've fixed the links to point to the proper clipping. [[User:Andrew Jameson|Andrew Jameson]] ([[User talk:Andrew Jameson|talk]]) 13:29, 12 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::Thank you Andrew. I made an error when uploading to the Wayback Machine archive. I thought I could upload the documents at once, and add specific metadata to each file, but it saved them all under one link. I used the same link (to avoid paywall sites) until I had time to figure out how to fix the Wayback archive. I appreciate your assistance. [[User:AuroraTiara|AuroraTiara]] ([[User talk:AuroraTiara|talk]]) 18:15, 12 March 2026 (UTC)
:::It isn't a "referencing error" - if you open the link you will see I simply made an error in uploading to the Wayback machine. I uploaded all of the articles at once thinking I could add specific metadata to each article, but it was loaded as a single entry instead. Unsure of how to correct it, I used the same link to the Wayback machine and I made a note in the talk page that I was working on citations. All of the articles cited are in the Wayback machine (and on newspapers.com etc), they are just not in the preferred "single article archive" method yet. I think it is unfair that this was moved to a draft without contacting me for clarification. [[User:AuroraTiara|AuroraTiara]] ([[User talk:AuroraTiara|talk]]) 18:06, 12 March 2026 (UTC)
{{Od}} [[User:AuroraTiara|AuroraTiara]], I regret the trouble this has caused you, but the draft still seems odd to me. {{Tq|He had a long and distinguished career in Freemasonry and [was] well thought of by his Freemason Brothers}} in particular reads less like an encyclopedia entry, more like obituaryspeak. Or is the prose style specific to freemasonry? As it is, I'd be amazed to read in the article [[Eric Hosking]] (as a hypothetical example outside freemasonry) that {{Tq|He had a long and distinguished career in bird photography and was well thought of by his fellow photographers/ornithologists}}. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 23:38, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

:@[[User:Hoary|Hoary]] If you only have issues with one cited line, I think it would be easier to have removed said line, rather than have the entire article remain in "draft" status. Freemasonry is not considered a job, instead it is a fraternity that is committed to truth, justice and philanthropy (etc.) - so being well thought of by your "Brothers" in the lodge, speaks to how he was well though of as an upstanding citizen in the community which is why I felt it was relevant to include it. Feel free to delete it if you feel that would make the article worthy of being republished. Considering the quality of many of the articles and stubs I have edited, I don't understand why this article is unacceptable. [[User:AuroraTiara|AuroraTiara]] ([[User talk:AuroraTiara|talk]]) 17:09, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
::{{U|AuroraTiara}}, fair enough. I articlified (dedraftified) it a few moments ago. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 22:22, 13 March 2026 (UTC)