Editing Eurovision Wiki:Village pump (policy) (section)

== Promoting discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:Vandalism#Update needed due to IP being replaced by temp accounts]] ==

I already tried to start a discussion at 

[[Wikipedia talk:Vandalism#Update needed due to IP being replaced by temp accounts]], but only one person responded, so I’m [[Wikipedia:APPNOTE|APPNOTE’ing]] the discussion here.

It is basically about policy/guideline pages still being largely written with the existence of IP editing in mind, despite this no longer existing.  I think this really needs to be addressed. [[User:Slomo666|Slomo666]] ([[User talk:Slomo666|talk]]) 17:54, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

:@[[User:Slomo666|Slomo666]] The proposals there seem fine, I think you can simply [[WP:BOLD|boldly]] update relevant pages. If you're reverted and this goes to an RfC, then maybe you need wider input. Currently I don't have much to add beyond "yes, please update these pages". '''[[User:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant:small-caps">Toadspike</span>]] [[User talk:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant:small-caps">[Talk]</span>]]''' 21:20, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
:Agree with Toadspike here. Be bold, then discuss further if needed. &#123;&#123;[[User:GearsDatapack|GearsDatapack]]&#124;[[User talk:GearsDatapack|talk]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/GearsDatapack|contribs]]&#125;&#125; 21:50, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
::I think it may not be clear what I’m asking. It isn’t just the fact that the text is outdated that I am raising. I am not sure what the actual guideline is now. I actually came to that page originally because I wanted to know how to deal with temporary accounts and (suspected) vandalism as I until then only knew how to deal with IPs or registered users.
::I still don’t know what the advice would be. I would even less personally strive to ''write'' the guidance. [[User:Slomo666|Slomo666]] ([[User talk:Slomo666|talk]]) 09:38, 12 March 2026 (UTC)
:Seems like {{ping|SuperPianoMan9167|p=}} has rewritten some of the text per what was discussed on the talk page. Some more work still needs to be done though.
:As I see it, there are three main ways that the policy is outdated. The first is that it refers to "IP editors" in a general way to mean editors who do not have an account, or are not logged in. These can mostly be replaced directly with "Temporary accounts" without further changing to the sentence.
:The second is that some parts of the policy refer to what happens when a user changes IP address or if multiple people share an IP address. These need to be changed, and largely removed, as temporary accounts are not shared by users on the same IP any more.
:The last is what was brought up on the talk page, which has been edited by SuperPianoMan, but may still need some more work, and likely requires some consensus building for substantive changes. &#123;&#123;[[User:GearsDatapack|GearsDatapack]]&#124;[[User talk:GearsDatapack|talk]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/GearsDatapack|contribs]]&#125;&#125; 10:07, 12 March 2026 (UTC)
::Note that guidance related to tracing behaviour based on IP addresses continues to be relevant, for those in the temporary account IP viewer user group, and IP address-based blocks may be suitable for some situations. I agree that best practice has evolved with rollout of the temporary accounts, and so appropriate changes are desirable. [[User:Isaacl|isaacl]] ([[User talk:Isaacl|talk]]) 16:47, 12 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Is there a process wherewith we could essentially request comments (not really an rfc tho bc it would be more like a survey) from people who are in that group (TAIP viewers) so they can give their experience, talk about what they think is best, what kind of customs they are converging on (if applicable)? [[User:Slomo666|Slomo666]] ([[User talk:Slomo666|talk]]) 12:05, 13 March 2026 (UTC)