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== Zoom-in for fossil ranges ==

{{Automatic taxobox| fossil_range = Middle [[Eocene]] – Early [[Oligocene]] {{fossil range|43.5|32.5}}{{Period fossil range|Paleogene|43.5|32.5}} | image = Museum of Natural History Palaeotherium magnum.jpg | taxon = Palaeotherium | name = Palaeotherium | display_parents = 0| authority = [[George Cuvier|Cuvier]], 1804
| type_species = {{extinct}}'''''Palaeotherium magnum'''''
| type_species_authority = Cuvier, 1804
| subdivision_ranks = Other species
| subdivision = {{species list
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;medium'''''|Cuvier, 1804
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;crassum'''''|Cuvier, 1805
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;curtum'''''|Cuvier, 1812
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;duvali'''''|[[Auguste Pomel|Pomel]], 1853
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;castrense'''''|[[Jean-Baptiste Noulet|Noulet]], 1863
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;siderolithicum'''''|[[François Jules Pictet de la Rive|Pictet]] & [[Aloïs Humbert|Humbert]], 1869
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;eocaenum'''''|[[Paul Gervais|Gervais]], 1875
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;lautricense'''''|[[Hans Georg Stehlin|Stehlin]], 1904
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;muehlbergi'''''|Stehlin, 1904
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;renevieri'''''|Stehlin, 1904
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;ruetimeyeri'''''|Stehlin, 1904
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;pomeli'''''|[[Jens Lorenz Franzen|Franzen]], 1968
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;crusafonti'''''|Casanovas-Cladellas, 1975
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;llamaquiquense'''''|Casanovas-Cladellas & Santafé Llopis, 1991
 |{{extinct}}'''''P.&nbsp;giganteum'''''|Cuesta, 1993
}}
''For subspecies suggested, see [[#Inner systematics|below]].''
| synonyms = {{collapsible list|bullets = true|title=<small>Genus synonymy</small>
 | ''Paleotherium'' {{small|Cuvier, 1804}}
 | ''Paloeotherium'' {{small|Cuvier, 1804}}
 | ''Palaetherium'' {{small|[[Constantine Samuel Rafinesque|Rafinesque]], 1814}}
 | ''Paloetherium'' {{small|Rafinesque, 1814}}
 | ''Salaeotherium'' {{small|[[François Désiré Roulin|Roulin]], 1829}}
 | ''Palacotherium'' {{small|[[Christian Erich Hermann von Meyer|von Meyer]], 1838}}
}}
{{collapsible list|bullets = true
 |title=<small>Synonyms of ''P.&nbsp;magnum''</small>
 |''Palaeotherium girondicum'' {{small|[[Henri Marie Ducrotay de Blainville|Blainville]], 1846}}
 |''Palaeotherium aniciense'' {{small|[[Paul Gervais|Gervais]], 1848–1852}}
 |''Palaeotherium subgracile'' {{small|[[Auguste Aymard|Aymard]], 1853}}
 |''Palaeotherium magnum parisiense'' {{small|Gervais, 1859}}
 |''Palaeotherium stehlini'' {{small|[[Charles Depéret|Depéret]], 1917}}
 |''Palaeotherium franzeni'' {{small|Casanovas-Cladellas & Santafé Llopis, 1980}}
}}
{{collapsible list|bullets = true
 |title=<small>Synonyms of ''P.&nbsp;medium''</small>
 |''Palaeotherium brivatense'' {{small|[[Auguste Bravard|Bravard]], 1843}}
 |''Palaeotherium suevicum'' {{small|Fraas, 1869}}
 |''Palaeotherium möschi'' {{small|Stehlin, 1904}}
 |''Palaeotherium euzetense'' {{small|Depéret, 1917}}
}}
{{collapsible list|bullets = true
 |title=<small>Synonyms of ''P.&nbsp;crassum''</small>
 |''Palaeotherium indeterminatum'' {{small|Cuvier, 1822}}
}}
{{collapsible list|bullets = true
 |title=<small>Synonyms of ''P.&nbsp;curtum''</small>
 |''Palaeotherium latum'' {{small|Cuvier, 1822}}
 |''Palaeotherium buseri'' {{small|Stehlin, 1904}}
}}
{{collapsible list|bullets = true
 |title=<small>Synonyms of ''P.&nbsp;duvali''</small>
 |''Palaeotherium heimi'' {{small|Stehlin, 1904}}
 |''Palaeotherium kleini'' {{small|[[Wilhelm Otto Dietrich|Dietrich]], 1922}}
}}
{{collapsible list|bullets = true
 |title=<small>Synonyms of ''P.&nbsp;castrense''</small>
 |''Paloplotherium magnum'' {{small|[[Ludwig Ruetimeyer|Ruetimeyer]], 1891}}
}}
{{collapsible list|bullets = true
 |title=<small>Synonyms of ''P.&nbsp;siderolithicum''</small>
 |''Plagiolophus siderolithicus'' {{small|Pictet & Humbert, 1869}}
}}
{{collapsible list|bullets = true
 |title=<small>Synonyms of ''P.&nbsp;eocaenum''</small>
 |''Paloplotherium depereti'' {{small|Stehlin, 1902}}
}}
{{collapsible list|bullets = true
 |title=<small>Synonyms of ''P.&nbsp;muehlbergi''</small>
 |''Palaeotherium velaunum'' {{small|Blainville, 1848}}
}}
{{collapsible list|bullets = true
 |title=<small>Dubious species</small>
 |''Palaeotherium gracile'' {{small|von Meyer, 1839}}
 |''Palaeotherium parvulum'' {{small|[[Pierre Toussaint Marcel de Serres de Mesplès|de Serres]], 1844}}
 |''Palaeotherium commune'' {{small|Blainville, 1846}}
 |''Palaeotherium primaevum'' {{small|Aymard, 1853}}
 |''Palaeotherium gervaisii'' {{small|Aymard, 1853}}
}}
}}

Hi folks! A proposal for [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Palaeontology#Zoom-in_for_fossil_ranges|providing zoomed-in fossil ranges]] focusing on a single period, with {{tl|Period fossil range}}, was discussed on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Palaeontology]], which received broad support for being used in specific cases. It would show up in addition to the main range generated by {{tl|Geological range}} (for example in taxoboxes or formation infoboxes). Some editors suggested querying broader input outside of the WikiProject, so I am asking here if anyone has feedback about it!

Here is an example to the right, suggested by [[User:IJReid]]! Beyond this one, all 12 possible bars can be found at {{tl|Period fossil range/rangebar}}. Courtesy ping to people in the earlier thread: @[[User:The Morrison Man|The Morrison Man]] @[[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] @[[User:African Mud Turtle|African Mud Turtle]] @[[User:LittleLazyLass|LittleLazyLass]] @[[User:IJReid|IJReid]] @[[User:Jens Lallensack|Jens Lallensack]] [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 20:27, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

:It feels like a useful inclusion for us at our WikiProject, but there is always the worry that by including additional "technical" details we could oversaturate the infobox with details that are in some way against the interest of informing those who aren't as knowledgable about the geologic time scale. Input on its appearance and intuitive use would be appreciated; does it make sense in the example infobox on the right here how the timescale bars are related among other things. '''[[User:IJReid|IJReid]]'''&nbsp;<sup><small>{<nowiki />{[[User talk:IJReid#top|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/IJReid|C]] - [[WP:DINO|D]] - [[WP:TREEREQ|R]]}<nowiki />}</small></sup> 03:40, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::I appreciate your reasonable concern about oversaturation, but the infobox on the right seems way shorter than the chemboxes that we currently have at pages like [[Calcium]]. [[User:LightNightLights|LightNightLights]] ([[User talk:LightNightLights|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LightNightLights|contribs]]) 17:26, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
:::For the sake of completion I have modified it to include the entire contents, originally it was abbreviated to focus just on the upper region. '''[[User:IJReid|IJReid]]'''&nbsp;<sup><small>{<nowiki />{[[User talk:IJReid#top|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/IJReid|C]] - [[WP:DINO|D]] - [[WP:TREEREQ|R]]}<nowiki />}</small></sup> 17:38, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::::{{small|([[Special:Permalink/1341719594#Zoom-in for fossil ranges|partial-contents permalink]])}} I see; thank you for that! That does change things a bit: still shorter with lists collapsed than Calcium, but still long. We probably should have a mandatory maximum infobox size but thinking about it, that's a discussion for Wikipedia at large, not Wikipedia's taxonomy infoboxes in specific. [[User:LightNightLights|LightNightLights]] ([[User talk:LightNightLights|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LightNightLights|contribs]]) 19:30, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::For what it's worth, ''Palaeotherium'' is a bit extreme in having such a long list of species and synonyms. Many fossil genera have only one species and few if any synonyms, and thus have very short taxoboxes. Giving a "see text" notice as with ''[[Dimetrodon]]'' is also an option when it simply becomes too much, or collapsing the list as at [[Titanosauria]]. [[User:LittleLazyLass|'''<span style="color:#BA55D3">LittleLazyLass</span>''']] ([[User_talk:LittleLazyLass|Talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/LittleLazyLass|Contributions]]) 19:39, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
{{Automatic taxobox
|name=Horodyskia
|fossil_range = Middle [[Calymmian]] – Late [[Ediacaran]] {{long fossil range|1480|550}}{{Period fossil range|Proterozoic|1480|550}}{{Period fossil range|Mesoproterozoic|1480|550}}
| image = Horodyskia moniliformis holotype.png
| image_caption = The holotype fossil of ''Horodyskia
| taxon = Horodyskia
}}
{{automatic taxobox
| name = Primates
| fossil_range = {{Fossil range|65.9|0|earliest=85}}{{Period fossil range|Cenozoic|65.9|0}}
[[Early Paleocene]] to [[Holocene|Present]]
|taxon=Primates
}}
:I've been playing around with this template in my sandbox and I really like the idea. Is there a plan to add graphical support for the Precambrian? I see that the template documentation says that {{tq|Periods before the [[Cambrian]] are not formally subdivided into epochs or ages, and this template will not work on them}}, however, I feel like it could be possible to add this support, maybe on a different scale? As an example, I added an infobox excerpted from ''[[Horodyskia]]'' with the template added twice. The first bar is using the parameter <code>Proterozoic</code> (an [[Eon (geology)|eon]]) and the second bar is using the template <code>Mesoproterozoic</code> (an [[Era (geology)|era]]). The bar appears to display correctly in both cases (the runoff is expected as the [[Mesoproterozoic]] ends midway through ''Horodyskia'''s range), just without the graphics. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: DarkGreen">md</span>]][[User talk:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Indigo">m.b</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Maroon">la</span>]]</span> 18:00, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::Yep, now that I think about it, that could also be a great addition! I'll try to see if I can set this up for the Proterozoic as a demo. [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 18:25, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Additionally, not sure of the reason behind this, but the {{tl|All time 250px}} template is wider than the Phanerozoic one (which is 220px). Should they be uniformized, or should I make a separate 250px wide template for Precambrian subdivisions? [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 18:32, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::::They can probably just be uniformized. [[Template:All time 250px]] also appears to display as a larger font than [[Template:Phanerozoic 220px]]. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: DarkGreen">md</span>]][[User talk:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Indigo">m.b</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Maroon">la</span>]]</span> 18:40, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::Added a slight fix so the bars wouldn't have runoff, and are instead displayed as open on that side if there would have been some. [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 19:36, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
* In the first example, the meaning is not intuitively accessible from the display. I spent awhile thinking the longer green bar was intended for the upper line of geological periods, as its green bar is very small. Would it work if the second bar is below the zoom in? [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 08:17, 5 March 2026 (UTC) 
*:That could work! Although I'm not sure of the effect of having the more detailed/technical bar first. Alternatively, we could have the green bar on the bottom side of the second bar, or even just space them up by a few more pixels? [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 09:24, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
*::I believe having it on the bottom of the second bar is what they were suggesting. [[User:LittleLazyLass|'''<span style="color:#BA55D3">LittleLazyLass</span>''']] ([[User_talk:LittleLazyLass|Talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/LittleLazyLass|Contributions]]) 14:20, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
*:::How would that work when there are more than two bars?
*:::Either some sort of highlight (surrounding circle?) when a bar is narrower than (some amount) to make it more prominent or (probably more difficult to implement) a link between the bars would be clearer imo. c.f. [[:File:Vatican_Europe_Location.svg]]. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 14:42, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
*::::From what I understand, there shouldn't be more than 2 bars per infobox if/when this is added to mainspace. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: DarkGreen">md</span>]][[User talk:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Indigo">m.b</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Maroon">la</span>]]</span> 14:47, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
*:::::Yep, that's also what I'm having in mind. The only case where nested bars could be possible is the one to the right (as both the Proterozoic and its eras have bars), but in that case we should just pick the most precise one that fully covers the range (in this case, the Proterozoic as a whole, as the Mesoproterozoic one sees half the range be cut off).{{pb}}A link between the bars could also be possible, I'll have to look into it. [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 15:01, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
*::::::I mean, theoretically you could have era-level bars for the Phanerozoic as well (see example for ''[[Primates]]'' with the parameter <code>Cenozoic</code>), but at that point you might as well just also create [[Template:Era fossil range]]. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: DarkGreen">md</span>]][[User talk:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Indigo">m.b</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Maroon">la</span>]]</span> 15:11, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
*:::::::Honestly, it makes sense for the Cenozoic as its periods are already quite short and you're likely to see ranges overlapping (especially between Neogene and Quaternary), but in that case, you wouldn't want another period-level range below it. Also, given the already broadened scope, I'm open to renaming the template something like {{tl|Detailed fossil range}}. [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 15:21, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
{{Automatic taxobox| fossil_range = Middle [[Eocene]] – Early [[Oligocene]] {{fossil range|43.5|32.5}}{{Period fossil range/sandbox|Paleogene|43.5|32.5}} | taxon = Palaeotherium | name = Palaeotherium | image = Museum of Natural History Palaeotherium magnum.jpg | display_parents = 0 | authority = [[George Cuvier|Cuvier]], 1804}}
*:::::::For comparison, here's the sandbox version with the zoom-in and the bars on the lower side. Not especially a fan of that alternate design, although if the community prefers it I'd be happy to go with it. [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 13:16, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
*::::::::On second thoughts, that design is starting to grow on me, especially on a full-width infobox where it doesn't look too busy. Still torn between both, personally. [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 16:18, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
*:::::::::I do think the addition of the zoom-in makes this a favourable version, could help with any confusion as to how the bars relate to one another. [[User:LittleLazyLass|'''<span style="color:#BA55D3">LittleLazyLass</span>''']] ([[User_talk:LittleLazyLass|Talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/LittleLazyLass|Contributions]]) 16:32, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
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:I very much like this template as an idea, and quite like the current implementation. Although the template could use much better documentation. I also prefer the version with the zoom-in and bar on the lower side (can we just call it option 2?). However, in the case of the zoom-in on option 2, I'm uncertain that it is sufficiently visible. Likewise the colors used to demarcate stages and epochs are very close to each other.
*I could not decipher the Pre-Cambrian sections, but by my count it has the following (very useful) possibilities: 5 period-to-stage level zooms for Paleozoic, 3 period-to-stage zooms for Mesozoic, 1 era-to-epoch level zoom for Cenozoic, and 3 period-to-stage level zooms for Cenozoic as well.
**Courtesy of [[User:Monster Iestyn|Monster lestyn]] in a convo on Discord: the Pre-Cambrian sections are 2 eon-to-era for the Archean and Proterozoic Eons, and 3 era-to-period for the Proterozoic's eras. That far back, it doesn't need to get more granular.
*I will note that there are ''not'' era-level zooms for Paleozoic and Mesozoic, whether to the better-known periods or the epochs (like Cenozoic has); I do not deal with Paleozoic or Mesozoic paleontology often enough to say whether those who do edit in that area would find those useful.
*The unofficial, but frequently used, split of the Carboniferous into the Mississippian and Pennsylvanian periods is not treated at all. I have no opinion on whether there should be two extra for these but am mentioning it for others' sake.
:Personally, I have an issue with the Quaternary-to-stage bar, because in the Quaternary, the stages are more commonly called the Early/Middle/Late Pleistocene than Gelasian/Calabrian/Chibanian, and the rigorous adherence to having the sections proportionate to the time span means the Holocene doesn't show up at all. I would ask that the names be amended and the sections more evenly proportioned.
:Overall, I thank Chaotic Enby for their hard work and support widespread implementation of this template. [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 22:30, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
:I saw this on the WP:Palaeo Discord and overall, I really like the concept! While I do agree that oversaturation could be an issue with it, having it in tandem with the overall timescale is nice. I prefer the second method (the one with the zoom in) because in my opinion it helps connect the two and explain the concept to the layperson. My only gripes really are with the Quaternary period. the ages like '''[[Middle Pleistocene|Chibanian]], [[Gelasian]],''' and '''[[Calabrian stage|Calabrian]]''' aren't commonly used in literature, it is much more common you hear the unofficial terms "Early Pleistocene" = Gelasian & Calabrian, "Middle Pleistocene" = Chibanian, and "[[Late Pleistocene]]" (not official recognized, but very commonly used. I really think for the Quaternary, you should have one range that separates into the Early, Middle, Late [[Pleistocene]], as well as the [[Holocene]]. Its unfortunately not as neat as the official terminology, but it is much more widely used in literature and by the public. All, in all, I really like the proposal and am more than happy to support it once some of the kinks are worked out --[[User:Montanoceratops|Montanoceratops]] ([[User talk:Montanoceratops|talk]]) 22:32, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
::Thanks both of you for the feedback! @[[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]], I can't really change the proportions as the bar length is proportional to the time length. For the stage/epoch demarcation, I've been using the official ICS colors from {{tl|Period color}} – I've been thinking of adding one-pixel dividers between them to make the demarcation more visible.{{pb}}The Mississippian and Pennsylvanian are a bit of a mess. They're not on the main timeline, so adding them as a zoom-in might be confusing (especially since the Pennsylvanian uses a similar color scheme to the Carboniferous itself), but I'm open to still offering them as an alternative.{{pb}}For the Quaternary: thanks @[[User:Montanoceratops|Montanoceratops]], I didn't know about that! I tried to follow the official one (which is why the L for Late Pleistocene is in italics), and, while I'm worried that the timeline would be visually very unbalanced if more than half of the period was a single subdivision, I could do it if that reflects the sources better than the "official" version. [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 01:21, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Yeah, unfortunately there really isn't a perfect solution since there's a lot of variation in the geologic timescale. While I do think having half of the Pleistocene as one period is a little silly, I would like to definitely prioritize the most common terminology used in scientific literature if possible, since, from my experience, most folks in Quaternary research use/are familiar with the early/middle/late terms over the "offical" ones (based on both my research into formations myself for Wikipedia and my friends' book, as well as my discussions with folks interested in Pleistocene research and paleomammology). And at least for the Chibanian, that's already what Wikipedia redirects to. Unfortunately really no matter how its split there's compromise involved, because there's a lot of nuances in the international timescale, as well as the many, many local scales that sometimes get utilized over the international ones (this is thankfully becoming increasingly rare, except for maybe land mammal ages). Still, I do think this template is really great and it will be a very useful addition to extinct species pages (as well as many straight up geology formation pages which also use the same template). I do hope you add an arrow icon for specific date. For example, if something is exactly 47 Ma, it doesn't display anything, but sometimes dates can get really precise (down to a few thousand to hundreds of thousands of years). 
:::Additionally, I personally think its fine not distinguishing the Mississippian from the Pennsylvanian too heavily. The colors already imply it, and most modern resources usually say Carboniferous first and foremost over Mississippian or Pennsylvanian.
:::All in all, great work! [[User:Montanoceratops|Montanoceratops]] ([[User talk:Montanoceratops|talk]]) 04:56, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
::::I've made quite a few changes, including moving the zoom from the sandbox to the main template, slightly darkening the zoom color, adding dotted bars to distinguish epochs (which add a bit of visibility to the latest epoch when it's short), fixing the Pleistocene timescale, and adding the arrow icon. As I believe these are all the changes that could be addressed, I'll mark it as ready for mainspace! Thanks a lot to all of you for the feedback! [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 16:03, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::Thank you for these changes. I should clarify I was not asking you to add the Mississippian/Pennsylvanian, just pointing it out for everyone else. The dotted lines definitely help. I'm happy to call this template ready for widespread use. Thanks again, [[User:SilverTiger12|SilverTiger12]] ([[User talk:SilverTiger12|talk]]) 20:34, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
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