Editing Talk:Urban areas in Europe (section)

== Reliability of Citypopulation.de ==

The consensus at [[Talk:List_of_metropolitan_areas_in_Europe#Is_Citypopulation.de_really_WP:RS]] was that this is not a reliable source. As such, I think it should be removed here as well, even though it does at least deal with urban agglomerations.
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:The City Population source isnt even about urban areas but metropolitan areas. For example that urban agglomeration population for London is much higher than the one listed at [[Greater London Urban Area]]. I will remove it unless anyone is opposed. [[User:Eopsid|Eopsid]] ([[User talk:Eopsid|talk]]) 15:53, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
:: City Population is agglomerations. But in some instances agglomerations are equal to metro area or conurbations. Each city has a note on methodology. UN is far less reliable. They don't provide any information on methodology, because they don't use any. Most UN numbers are administrative-territorial units (what some call incorrectly call city proper), not urban area (agglomerations). [[User:Elk Salmon|Elk Salmon]] ([[User talk:Elk Salmon|talk]]) 11:38, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
:::The very nature of the urban agglomeration definition makes it quite difficult to get reliable data. Since official statistical information are most likely following the administrative borders, and the main intent of the agglomeration definition is to purposefully ignore those borders. So, the numbers are probably more likely to be found in research papers rather than in official documents? The Copernicus programme has some data on urban population, using kilometre grid, but provides summarized population counts not for urban areas, but only for the very high population density "cores" of the urban areas. Probably because that would be harder to delimit? Citypopulation.de seems to do an OK job with what data is available. While UN population data is probably more reliable, it has often very little in common with an urban area delimitation. [[User:Dżamper|Dżamper]] ([[User talk:Dżamper|talk]]) 14:49, 24 October 2025 (UTC)