Editing Talk:Quicksilver (Marvel Comics) (section)

== Merging "Peter Maximoff" into this article ==

The Peter Maximoff article should be merged into Quicksilver (Marvel Comics) for the following reasons:

'''The article is explicitly derivative and non-independent.''' Peter Maximoff is openly described within the article itself as being "based on the Marvel Comics character Quicksilver." Adaptation-based articles are only justifiable when they contain enough unique, substantial material to stand independently; this one does not.

'''The character's story is permanently closed.''' Unlike MCU counterpart characters such as Sam Wilson, James Rhodes, or Hope van Dyne, who have received their own articles on the strength of extensive solo storylines, significant ongoing character development, and confirmed future appearances, Peter Maximoff's entire existence as a character is confined to three films and a single cameo across 2014–2019. Following Disney's acquisition of 21st Century Fox, the Fox X-Men film continuity is definitively concluded. No new Peter Maximoff content will ever be produced, making a permanent standalone article increasingly difficult to justify.

'''The article is too small to stand alone.''' Its content covers a handful of film appearances and some VFX production notes. Every meaningful detail it contains could be absorbed into the existing Fox Films subsection of the main Quicksilver article without the loss of a single piece of information. The result would not be a bloated main article, it would simply be a more complete and higher-quality one.

'''Consistency with how the MCU version is handled.''' The MCU's Pietro Maximoff does not have his own standalone article and is instead covered within the main Quicksilver article. There is no principled reason to treat the Fox version differently, particularly given that the MCU version had a theatrically released death in a major Avengers film, making Peter Maximoff's case for a standalone article comparatively even weaker.

'''The split should arguably never have happened.''' The original decision to create a separate article was likely reflexive; live-action adaptations are routinely given their own pages but in this case the character never accumulated enough material to justify the split. Merging now corrects that  [[User:ModlordD|ModlordD]] ([[User talk:ModlordD|talk]]) 02:29, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
: {{re|ModlordD}}, it is the common practice to allow at least a several weeks for responses to be provided to proposals such as these before acting on them. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 15:17, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
::Sorry, I didn't know. I had acted upon it apon approval from another more experienced editor [[User:ModlordD|ModlordD]] ([[User talk:ModlordD|talk]]) 02:19, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::: I would also question some of the bases of argument above; for example whether the character's story really is "permanently closed", given the nature of comic book movies, and the recent surprise resuscitations of numerous dead-and/or-gone characters (Wolverine, Professor X, Blade, the previous versions of Spider-Man, etc.). [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 02:52, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
::For posterity I'll mention that mergers don't actually require proposals at all unless there's reason to believe it may be controversial. '''[[User:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:#0c4709">Thebiguglyalien</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:#472c09">talk</span>]]) 05:06, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
::: The fact that the article has existed for over five years and represents the substantive contributions of two dozen editors should suffice to believe that a merge may be controversial. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 13:38, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:'''Support''' merge as all of the pertinent information can be covered in one place. Note that [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thebiguglyalien#c-Thebiguglyalien-20260314012600-ModlordD-20260314012100 I endorsed the merge] in a discussion on my talk page. '''[[User:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:#0c4709">Thebiguglyalien</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:#472c09">talk</span>]]) 05:05, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' merge. If all of the pertinent information can be covered in one place, then the merger would have added 27k to this article, which is not what has happened here, despite the comic book background of the character only constituting a few lines of the breakout article. Aspects of the character article such as casting of the actor, special effects, and nominations for acting awards, are generally beyond the scope of coverage of the comic book character alone. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 20:57, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
*:"Pertinent" excludes fancruft. '''[[User:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:#0c4709">Thebiguglyalien</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:#472c09">talk</span>]]) 23:51, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
*:: The items I noted are supported by reliable independent sources. Processes for casting actors for such parts or for rendering special effects for particular sets of unusual conditions (in this case, an individual moving at impossible speeds) are of a more general interest than just a fandom. This is what makes such details, by definition, not fancruft, or else we wouldn't have articles on [[Casting (performing arts)|casting]] and [[special effects]] at all. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 23:56, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
:'''Support''' The actual info in the split is very minimal and easily condensed into the parent article, where it makes more sense to cover him rather than as a separate split. Splits per version should only be in cases where the coverage warrants such a split (For example, [[Tony Stark (Marvel Cinematic Universe)]] and [[Iron Man]] are both so iconic with enough coverage that merging them would be unwise). This is not the case here, since the split's info is very limited and easily mergeable with bloating the parent (And in fact most of the merging has already been done). We shouldn't split variants "just because", we should only split when it warrants it, which is clearly not the case here. Magneton Considerer: '''[[User:Pokelego999|Pokelego999]]''' ([[User Talk:Pokelego999|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Pokelego999|Contribs]]) 20:12, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
:: {{re|Pokelego999}} What do you mean by "condensed"? What would you remove to effect this? [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 20:52, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
:::I mean the way it's currently organized at [[Quicksilver (Marvel Comics)#In other media]] is how I'd do it, honestly. Retains all the core information pretty well and gives readers a good summary of the character if they're unfamiliar with them.  Magneton Considerer: '''[[User:Pokelego999|Pokelego999]]''' ([[User Talk:Pokelego999|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Pokelego999|Contribs]]) 21:02, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
:::: I suppose that would not be the worst thing. If merged, I would expect the split article to spring back into being if the character shows up again in the Doomsday arc, as that would be a rather huge development. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 21:12, 18 March 2026 (UTC)