Editing Talk:Islamic calendar (section)

===Keep an eye on Nasi===
Editors who participated in this discussion should also keep an eye on [[Nasi']] as the OP recently removed the image claiming that the consensus of this talk page was that the image was only decorative and could be removed. I have reverted his edit. [[User:AstroLynx|AstroLynx]] ([[User talk:AstroLynx|talk]]) 11:54, 22 February 2026 (UTC) 

:Neither you nor other editors chose to participate in a conversation about the merits of keeping the image outside of the context of censoship. There are other reasons for removing the image from this and other articles which have been repeatedly ignored. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-78748-7|&#126;2026-78748-7]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-78748-7|talk]]) 19:53, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
::You have already been given the reason why the image is relevant in the context where it is used in both articles{{snd}} just as it was when Al Buruni used it for the same reason and in the same context, 1000 years ago. The discussion has already ended. [[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 20:34, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
:::Please restate it for me clearly then because I have not understood other than for you to say that it appears in a caption which does not meet the MOS requirement. The subject of the article is this article is the Islamic Calendar and the subject of the other article is Nasi'. Neither of those are depicted in the image. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-78748-7|&#126;2026-78748-7]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-78748-7|talk]]) 21:03, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
::::The issue is simple. There are at least three editors here who believe it is in line with [[MOS:IMAGEREL]]. It is only you who disagrees. This is a case of [[WP:1AM]], and so as {{u|JMF}} said it's time to drop the [[WP:STICK]]. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' <sup>''([[User talk:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">music</i>]])''</sup> 07:24, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
:::::Please answer my quesitons. Where is a calendar in the image? Where are the Nasi in the image? How does the image teach anyone anything about a calendar or Nasi? [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-78748-7|&#126;2026-78748-7]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-78748-7|talk]]) 07:33, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
::::::The image portrays the prohibition of Nasī. It is next to a section talking about the prohibition of Nasī. It's that simple. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' <sup>''([[User talk:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">music</i>]])''</sup> 07:37, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
:::::::It does not. It has a caption the says that, but there is nothing in the image to indicate that is what is occuring. It just shows people. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-78748-7|&#126;2026-78748-7]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-78748-7|talk]]) 07:43, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
::::::::There is a citation to the book it's from. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' <sup>''([[User talk:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">music</i>]])''</sup> 07:47, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::That still doesn't help anyone. Its an abstract drawing that doesn't show the subject of the artice. Sure, it looks nice, but the Wikipedia MOS does not allow images that are primarily decorative and that do not help inform the reader about the subject. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-78748-7|&#126;2026-78748-7]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-78748-7|talk]]) 07:50, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::You're going round in circles here. Several editors have already explained to you that it is in line with [[MOS:IMAGEREL]] as a portrayal of the events in the adjacent paragraph. If your argument is that what is happening in the image itself is unclear, that's why there is a caption which explains the context of the Arabic text. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' <sup>''([[User talk:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">music</i>]])''</sup> 07:54, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::::You are misinterpreting [[MOS:IMAGEREL]]. I am not saying that the image isn't relevant. I am saying that it doesn't teach the reader about the subject. I could look at the picure for eternity and never guess that the image was supposed to depict anything about leap months or time keeping. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-78748-7|&#126;2026-78748-7]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-78748-7|talk]]) 08:00, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
::::::::::::Images aren't required to inform the reader in uncaptioned isolation, I wouldn't guess that the atomic clock closeup at [[:File:ChipScaleClock2 HR.jpg]] related to timekeeping. The adjacent article text in the Nasi' article is about an announced prohibition, and the image, with a caption describing what it depicts, is a relevant illustration of that concept. [[User:Belbury|Belbury]] ([[User talk:Belbury|talk]]) 09:00, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

Perhaps it would be best to temporarily give [[Nasi']] the same protection against vandalism by anonymous editors as [[Islamic calendar]] currently has. [[User:AstroLynx|AstroLynx]] ([[User talk:AstroLynx|talk]]) 09:32, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

:<s>Or you could just try discussing like Belbury did. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-12735-56|&#126;2026-12735-56]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-12735-56|talk]]) 00:40, 27 February 2026 (UTC)</s>{{sock vote|~2026-11919-72|sus}}<small>--[[User:Belbury|Belbury]] ([[User talk:Belbury|talk]]) 10:00, 27 February 2026 (UTC)</small>
:<s>Although the perceived need for protection does raise a quesiton about Czello's claim that my opinion is one versus many. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-12735-56|&#126;2026-12735-56]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-12735-56|talk]]) 00:43, 27 February 2026 (UTC)</s>{{sock vote|~2026-11919-72|sus}}<small>--[[User:Belbury|Belbury]] ([[User talk:Belbury|talk]]) 10:00, 27 February 2026 (UTC)</small>
::That's because it is still just one person, persistently edit warring and not [[WP:STICK|dropping the stick]]. Talking of which, {{u|Slakr}} there appears to be some block evasion going on here. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' <sup>''([[User talk:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">music</i>]])''</sup> 06:58, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
:::Yes, it looks like [[User:~2026-11919-72]] was blocked for disruption on the evening of the 22nd, so all comments after that time above were evading that block. I'll just strike the ones from the past 24 hours and remove the one with no response, under [[WP:BLOCKEVASION]]. I guess that ends the discussion for now. --[[User:Belbury|Belbury]] ([[User talk:Belbury|talk]]) 09:59, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
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