Editing Talk:Moses Fleetwood Walker (section)

== William Edward White ==
A little more information on W.E. White.  The Providence Journal article mentions W.E. White's race as being listed as "white" in the 1900 and 1910 census.  It does not mention the 1880 census.  However, doing a search through http://www.familysearch.org in the 1880 U.S. census for William E. White in Rhode Island brings up: William E. White in his 1880 boarding house in Providence also listed as "white."  Unfortunately, there seems to be no way to link directly to this census result on familysearch.org (gregor197)

This would be easier to talk about if Mr. White's last name was not the same as the racial category! :)

:I've been wrestling with how much info to include on White, and whether to create a page for him, and include it there.  The original section I wrote just said White 'may' have been the first. 

:I added a 'Baseball History' section to frame the William Edward White content on Fleet's page; I'm not sure if it should be moved to a new page for White.  [[User:Econrad|Econrad]] 3 July 2005 20:52 (UTC)

:: A separate W.E. White page would be a good thing, but I still think it's good to leave information about the controversy here, too, since it is pertinent to Walker's history. (gregor197)

:::FYI: you can date and sign your name by typing 4 tildes ('~') in a row. [[User:Econrad|Econrad]] 3 July 2005 21:47 (UTC)

Good addition of the baseball history separator.... I was thinking about separating that section, too!

Abisai here:
I was wondering if the entire section titled baseball history was better suited as a separate article, one addressing the White vs. Walker as first discussion separately, or even one just to address White individually. Also, I was considering putting something to distinguish Mr. Walker as the first everday player, since Mr. White played but a single game. I feel inadequately aware of the facts of the matter and would defer to others, but thought this was a point worthy of mentioning in the article.

:Agreed.  I'd like a short mention of the issue in this article (as it was originally) with a wikilink to the more detailed info, whether on a [[William Edward White]] page, or on a page dedicated to the issue, like 'First African-American Major-Leage Baseball Player', or similar.  If anyone has thoughts on the issue (or the title if we go with a separate article), please add your $.02. He yeets the baseball back to the pictcher Also sub to NCHU Mj on youtube.

:[[NPOV]] becomes challenging (for me anyways), as White played one game as a sub, and, as the Toledo Blade explains, "One of the main reasons why Mr. White probably didn't come to light until last year was, until then, no one knew that he was African-American."[http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050207/NEWS08/502070334].  My POV says Fleet deserves credit for playing time and for suffering due to racism, but I'm trying to remain NPOV.[[User:Econrad|Econrad]] 6 July 2005 01:12 (UTC)