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== Sourceconfirmer826 violating WP:WQ/WP:PA repeatedly ==
{{atop|1=It doesn't matter what your experience was as an {{tqq|administrator in Wikipedia in the past (not the English Wikipedia, but regardless)}}. You're on English Wikipedia now, and English Wikipedia's PAGs are the ones you must follow. Since Sourceconfirmer826 refused to and continued digging the hole deeper, they've been indef'd. - [[User:The Bushranger|The Bushranger]] <sub>[[User talk:The Bushranger|<span style="color: maroon;">One ping only</span>]]</sub> 19:51, 17 March 2026 (UTC)}}
The user [[User:Sourceconfirmer826|Sourceconfirmer826]] is repeatedly violating the [[Wikipedia:Etiquette|WP:WQ]] and [[WP:PA]] rule in a thread despite being warned on the talk page/thread. They're being hostile towards other editors in the discussion over [[Talk:Ali Larijani#Source(s) for purported death|here]]. <span style="font-family: Courier New; background-color: green; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">[[User:Twistedaxe|<span style="color: yellow">TwistedAxe</span>]] [[User talk:Twistedaxe|<span style="color: navy">[contact]</span>]]</span> 12:52, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

:Some diffs (I have interacted on the same page): [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ali_Larijani&diff=prev&oldid=1343958805 1] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ali_Larijani&diff=prev&oldid=1343957770] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ali_Larijani&diff=prev&oldid=1343957468]
:I did also warn them for the first one. 🚂[[User:ThatTrainGuy1945|<span style="color:blue"><b>That</b></span><span style="color:red"><b>Train</b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>Guy</b></span><span style="color:red"><b>1945</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:ThatTrainGuy1945|Peep peep!]]</sup> 12:59, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:Note: The offending user was created just today and is only editing in [[Talk:Ali Larijani]]. [[User:Borgenland|Borgenland]] ([[User talk:Borgenland|talk]]) 13:23, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:As I said it was just a question 

By claiming it is an attack or that the question is hostile, you are inadvertently saying there is something wrong with being X.
(X being what the question suggests)
[[User:Sourceconfirmer826|Sourceconfirmer826]] ([[User talk:Sourceconfirmer826|talk]]) 13:15, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

:So should it be taken that authoritatively calling other editors members of a {{tpq|pro Palestine pro Iran mob}} a legitimate question? [[User:Borgenland|Borgenland]] ([[User talk:Borgenland|talk]]) 13:19, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
::Not to mention trying to discredit other editors by asking whether they are {{tpq|Swedish btw or a middle eastern immigrant}}. That is more than enough for a CBAN for racist aspersions. [[User:Borgenland|Borgenland]] ([[User talk:Borgenland|talk]]) 13:20, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Even being a middle eastern immigrant shouldn't matter in this discussion. 🚂[[User:ThatTrainGuy1945|<span style="color:blue"><b>That</b></span><span style="color:red"><b>Train</b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>Guy</b></span><span style="color:red"><b>1945</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:ThatTrainGuy1945|Peep peep!]]</sup> 13:22, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
::::<small> I had originally replied to Borgenland before he added the second sentence on. </small>🚂[[User:ThatTrainGuy1945|<span style="color:blue"><b>That</b></span><span style="color:red"><b>Train</b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>Guy</b></span><span style="color:red"><b>1945</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:ThatTrainGuy1945|Peep peep!]]</sup> 13:24, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::If SC826 takes back the PA, steps back for like 2 weeks, gets a clear head and return to editing, that would be a better solution than just jumping to a block. I am more lenient on this because they just started editing, and may have not read our policies just yet. This report IMO may just be a [[WP:BITE]] report. [[User:EditorShane3456|shane]] [[User talk: EditorShane3456|(talk to me if you want!)]] 13:25, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
::::They were warned multiple times both in the thread and on their talk page, and it is pretty much common sense not to be racist or state ridiculous statements anywhere one goes. I think it's pretty much common sense to assume that everywhere you go, you do not act in a derogatory manner. If this was an issue regarding edits or mostly Wikipedia policies, sure, but this is just straight up being rude - which does not qualify for [[Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers|WP:BITE]]. I understand your reasoning for being lenient and I did not want to make this ANI but repeated attacks after being warned multiple times is not okay. <span style="font-family: Courier New; background-color: green; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">[[User:Twistedaxe|<span style="color: yellow">TwistedAxe</span>]] [[User talk:Twistedaxe|<span style="color: navy">[contact]</span>]]</span> 13:38, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::I agree that repeated attacks aren't ok and those personal attacks can be taken back, we dont have to jump to drastic measures, we can be lenient on this new user, we can help this new user instead of giving them a bad opinion of Wikipedia. [[User:EditorShane3456|shane]] [[User talk: EditorShane3456|(talk to me if you want!)]] 13:43, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::With all due respect, worrying about having them blocked for racism will give them a bad opinion of Wikipedia sounds like turning AGF into a suicide pact. You have had to warn them again when they played mental gymnastics by pretending they weren't racist or name-calling even when caught red-handed. [[User:Borgenland|Borgenland]] ([[User talk:Borgenland|talk]]) 13:49, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::I think you have missed the point of my response and I am not gonna explain again. [[User:EditorShane3456|shane]] [[User talk: EditorShane3456|(talk to me if you want!)]] 13:50, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Anyway, the offending user's "retraction", alongside them gloating over their "compliment", is below. Go judge if they are still deserving of AGF. [[User:Borgenland|Borgenland]] ([[User talk:Borgenland|talk]]) 13:53, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::I'm Arab, claiming I'm racist is the dumbest thing ever lol [[User:Sourceconfirmer826|Sourceconfirmer826]] ([[User talk:Sourceconfirmer826|talk]]) 14:13, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Being any ethnicity does not protect you from being racist. See also [[On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog|dog and internet]]. 🚂[[User:ThatTrainGuy1945|<span style="color:blue"><b>That</b></span><span style="color:red"><b>Train</b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>Guy</b></span><span style="color:red"><b>1945</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:ThatTrainGuy1945|Peep peep!]]</sup> 14:15, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::I meant to say, "accusations of racism." 🚂[[User:ThatTrainGuy1945|<span style="color:blue"><b>That</b></span><span style="color:red"><b>Train</b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>Guy</b></span><span style="color:red"><b>1945</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:ThatTrainGuy1945|Peep peep!]]</sup> 14:17, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
::This is also a question, is there something wrong with being pro Palestine/pro Iran mob?
::Is there something wrong with being a middle eastern immigrant in Sweden?
::Since there is nothing wrong with that, why is that hostile asking or an attack?
::[[User:Sourceconfirmer826|Sourceconfirmer826]] ([[User talk:Sourceconfirmer826|talk]]) 13:30, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::SC826, please listen to my advice, your digging yourself a deeper hole here. [[User:EditorShane3456|shane]] [[User talk: EditorShane3456|(talk to me if you want!)]] 13:31, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::{{tpq|lmao the IDF is the most reliable source there is. The IDF was NEVER wrong. You pro Palestine pro Iran mob are so funny }} where is the question in that? [[User:Borgenland|Borgenland]] ([[User talk:Borgenland|talk]]) 13:32, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
::::{{tpq|It seems like you are disappointed and sad that Ali has died (both of them) are you actually Swedish btw or a middle eastern immigrant}} for the full aspersion. [[User:Borgenland|Borgenland]] ([[User talk:Borgenland|talk]]) 13:33, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::I see the first one as a compliment for being funny and the second one as a question, there was a question mark btw which you omitted. 
:::::Anyway, sure I take back the compliment and my question [[User:Sourceconfirmer826|Sourceconfirmer826]] ([[User talk:Sourceconfirmer826|talk]]) 13:50, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:I would advise you @[[User:Sourceconfirmer826|Sourceconfirmer826]] that you take back the personal attacks, step back, read over our civillity policies, and return to editing once you have a clear head. [[User:EditorShane3456|shane]] [[User talk: EditorShane3456|(talk to me if you want!)]] 13:20, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:I feel like I should point out that while we're still waiting arbcom clarification on whether the entirety of the Israeli-Iran conflict comes under the Arab-Israeli conflict CTOP, Sourceconfirmer826 cannot comment on anything about Palestine or Palestinians in relation to Israel as they are not extended confirmed. With the exception of edit conflicts, it doesn't matter whether their comment is appropriate. I've given them a A-I CTOP alert. If they bring it up again, they can be blocked as needed. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 14:21, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
::Wasn't there also this template about post-1979 Iran? Or is the threshold lower there? [[User:Borgenland|Borgenland]] ([[User talk:Borgenland|talk]]) 14:30, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
::I was an administrator in Wikipedia in the past (not the English Wikipedia, but regardless) but the arguments of en-wikipedia administrators contain many fallacies, and your discussions as well.
::A comment in a TALK PAGE, is not "editing an article related to the conflict" 
::Since it is a talk page, anyone could comment in it, your alert is entirely wrong since its objective wasn't committed in the first place. 
::Since Persians aren't arab, and Iran is attacking Arab countries as well, it couldn't be a part of the Israeli-Afab conflict 
::Regardless, I was commenting in a talk page, and not editing the article itself, which is what your alert is about 
::[[User:Sourceconfirmer826|Sourceconfirmer826]] ([[User talk:Sourceconfirmer826|talk]]) 15:24, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::What account was it? I can't find anything under this one, since it was created today. 🚂[[User:ThatTrainGuy1945|<span style="color:blue"><b>That</b></span><span style="color:red"><b>Train</b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>Guy</b></span><span style="color:red"><b>1945</b></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:ThatTrainGuy1945|Peep peep!]]</sup> 15:40, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Blocked, this is getting out of hand. [[User talk:SarekOfVulcan|<span class="gfSarekSig">SarekOfVulcan (talk)</span>]] 15:42, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Sourceconfirmer826|Sourceconfirmer826]] [[Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Procedures#Extended_confirmed_restriction]] says specifically that when ECR is in effect (which it is for the Arab-Israeli conflict), {{tq|[n]on-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace only to make [[Wikipedia:EDITXY|edit requests]] related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive.}} <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: DarkGreen">md</span>]][[User talk:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Indigo">m.b</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Maroon">la</span>]]</span> 15:46, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::So much for hiding under the [[WP:BITE]] card. [[User:Borgenland|Borgenland]] ([[User talk:Borgenland|talk]]) 16:17, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
:::As I said, we're awaiting arbcom to clarify whether A-I applies to the entirety of the Iran-Israeli conflict. But it's irrelevant when you bring up Palestinians in relation to Israel as you did when you brought them up in relation to '''Israeli''' claims of having killed Ali Larijani. Regardless of the appropriateness of your comments, you cannot bring Palestinians in to a discussion about Israel since in that case it will definitely be covered by the A-I CTOP since Palestinians are by and large Arab (and indeed their conflict with Israel is the key part of the CTOP). If you do bring Palestinians into a discussion about Israel, you're violating the A-I CTOP broadly construed, whether it's something involving Israel and Iran, the US, Martians, cats, plants, Star Wars, or anything else. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 17:14, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
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