Editing Eurovision Wiki:Teahouse (section)

== Merge ==

HI :)

I got into the merging project, which is a lot of fun and contributes to WP in my opinion, but i have a question and im trying to understand the main differance between AFD and merge decisions, they seem to get tangled up in some cases, especially when an article is settled for merge instead of deletion... How can I learn more about this?  [[User:Happypenguins82|Happypenguins82]] ([[User talk:Happypenguins82|talk]]) 16:23, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Happypenguins82|Happypenguins82]]. It's the proposer who chooses whether to propose deleting or merging and that decides the venue for the discussion. All participants are free to make any suggestion and the discussion may close with any result. Merging can be complicated and require knowledge of the field to do well. If a discussion ends with a decision to merge then there may not be anyone willing to do it for a long time. Nobody is assigned to specific work so it waits for a volunteer. Anyone can carry out a merge unless they aren't allowed to edit the target page. Deletions require less work and happen quickly. Does that answer your question? [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 18:27, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
::Yes it does, thank you :)
::And if i noticed that the AFD/Merge conclusion/discussion template has a wrong destination on it, or a better one, is it ok to change the name of the article that appears on the final notice? (with proper edit summary of course). [[User:Happypenguins82|Happypenguins82]] ([[User talk:Happypenguins82|talk]]) 18:51, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Happypenguins82}} I'm not sure what you mean by the final notice but if it's a section heading of a discussion then don't change it. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 19:16, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
::::I'll give you an example, this [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna Williams (Tekken)]] this should be redirected to a different article, I want to change the only the name of the destination in this from "Tekken" which is disambiguation, to [[Characters of the Tekken series]].
::::what would you advise (these articles came from the open tasks on the merging page, because the destination is off. [[User:Happypenguins82|Happypenguins82]] ([[User talk:Happypenguins82|talk]]) 19:44, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::{{reply to|Happypenguins82}} The editors who voted merge should have said instead merge with [[Characters of the Tekken series]], it is a better merge for the article. [[User:Catfurball|Catfurball]] ([[User talk:Catfurball|talk]]) 20:20, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, its exactly my point, and therefor i'm intrested in correcting only the correct destination: the name of the right article, and will of course be very clear when I'll write the edit summary. [[User:Happypenguins82|Happypenguins82]] ([[User talk:Happypenguins82|talk]]) 20:27, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Happypenguins82}} [[Tekken]] is an article. It's not a [[MOS:DAB|disambiguation page]] just because it's about a whole franchise. [[Anna Williams (Tekken)]] was redirected to [[List of Tekken characters#Anna Williams]] at the time.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anna_Williams_(Tekken)&diff=prev&oldid=1153418882] The AfD has a signed and dated post from 2023 saying "The result was '''merge''' to [[Tekken]]". Don't change that and in general, [[WP:TALKO|don't change posts by others]]. You can add a signed note saying it was actually merged to [[List of Tekken characters#Anna Williams]], or you can contact the editor and ask whether they will change it. [[Anna Williams (Tekken)]] became an article again in 2025 when a new draft was accepted.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anna_Williams_(Tekken)&diff=prev&oldid=1321960219] The 2023 discussion is too old to force a new merge now without a discussion. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 20:23, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::Ok will do as you advised. thanks again [[User:Happypenguins82|Happypenguins82]] ([[User talk:Happypenguins82|talk]]) 20:29, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::Sorry to be a pain but im trying to figure this out, these are the instructions from open task on the project:
::::::== Redirected ==
::::::<nowiki>The following table lists pages referred to by {{</nowiki>[[Template:Afd-merge from|afd-merge from]]<nowiki>}} are redirects to some page other than that with the {{</nowiki>[[Template:Afd-merge from|afd-merge from]]<nowiki>}}. Please correct the {{</nowiki>[[Template:Afd-merge from|afd-merge from]]<nowiki>}}, either by removing it (if the page was correctly merged elsewhere), undoing the incorrect redirection, or pointing it to the correct page. This table will be updated automatically.</nowiki>
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::::::[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Merge#Open_tasks]]
:::::: would you still advise to leave it be? [[User:Happypenguins82|Happypenguins82]] ([[User talk:Happypenguins82|talk]]) 20:48, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::{{ping|Happypenguins82}} Yes. "referred to by {{[[Template:Afd-merge from|afd-merge from]]}}" means that template is actually used. It's not used on AfD pages. [[Anna Williams (Tekken)]] ended up in [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Merge#Open tasks]] because <code><nowiki>{{Afd-merge from|Anna Williams (Tekken)|Anna Williams (Tekken)|5 May 2023}}</nowiki></code> was placed on [[Talk:Tekken]] when the AfD closed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tekken&diff=prev&oldid=1153288754] but [[Anna Williams (Tekken)]] was redirected to another page. Editing the AfD page later would not change the code on [[Talk:Tekken]]. The code has since been removed.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tekken&diff=prev&oldid=1321920148] This was appropriate since no content was apparently merged to [[Tekken]]. [[Anna Williams (Tekken)]] can be removed from  the "Deleted" part of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Merge#Open tasks]] which says it is '''not''' updated automatically (additions are automatic but not removals). It appears from the page history [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:AnomieBOT/Afd-mergefrom_report&action=history] that nobody actually ever removes pages so the "Deleted" list just keeps growing. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 00:20, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks again for the good explanation 🙏 [[User:Happypenguins82|Happypenguins82]] ([[User talk:Happypenguins82|talk]]) 07:09, 14 March 2026 (UTC)