Editing Talk:Co-counselling (section)

==Transference==
Problem with the word "transference" is that it comes out of Adler Psychoanalysis and is therefore deprecated in RC and anti-psychiatry movement generally. I don't think it's adding balance to use it here; rather it's an attempt to re-introduce a sort of external critique of co-counselling from the so-called independent (actually just another psuodo-scientific) viewpoint of "psychology". So I don't think it should be used in this context. [[User:MarkThomas|MarkThomas]] 18:36, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

:The term transference is used in CCI and this article is about Co-counselling in general not just the RC view. see [http://www.shef.ac.uk/cci/cciuk/practice/glossary.html] and [http://co-cornucopia.org.uk/coco/download/cocothea.pdf]. The question of how it (whatever name you give it) is addressed should be discussed. [[User:Lumos3|Lumos3]] 23:16, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

:I have restored the original paragraph referring to transference in the general description section and moved the RC view to the RC section.  [[Transference]] is a widely recognised term, and not only in psychotherapy.  Most people who understand the concept would, I think, expect some reference to transference in a discussion of co-counselling.[[User:John Talbut|John Talbut]] 19:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

:If they've done it via CCI, yes. Not if they've done it via RC. Basically it seems like John Talbut's aim (and those of some others) is to rewrite history and make co-counselling the way CCI'ers would like it to be; eg, a confused mess of imports from other "therapies". [[User:MarkThomas|MarkThomas]] 19:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

::In fact the term transference is not used much in CCI, but the article is not written primarily for people who already know about co-counselling.  Nor is it for scoring points.  The article is for people who know little or nothing about co-counselling, but who may know something about other therapies or approaches to personal development and may know about transference and want to know how co-counsellors address it.

::As I have written previously, I have co-counselled with RC as well as CCI and I subscribe to Present Time [http://www.rc.org/publications/present_time/index.html].  The fact that I prefer CCI does not mean that I think it more suitable than RC for everyone or better than RC, just different.  I have no interest in denigrating or misrpresenting RC and I frequently direct inquirers to RC.

::I am restoring the paragraphs that you deleted under description, Mark.  Their aim is to give people who know little or nothing about co-counselling more of an understanding of how it works.  As far as I can see, they apply to RC as well as CCI.  I appreciate that, for instance, in RC people may not work in a language that the other person does not understand, but I only state that some co-counsellors do this, which is true, and the fact that they can reinforces the points made in the previous sentences, which do, I think, apply to RC.  If you think that any of what is written misrepresents RC then do not just delete it, please explain and let us try to come up with mutually acceptable forms of words. [[User:John Talbut|John Talbut]] 08:02, 10 March 2006 (UTC)