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== Input on merge close ==

I'm looking to close the proposed merger: [[Talk:Yeison Jiménez#Merge proposal]], which has been on the request closure page for about a month. This is my first time closing something where consensus isn't crystal clear so I wanted to ask for input on my proposed close:

The result of the discussion was '''merge'''. 

Supporters of the merge cited [[WP:EVENTCRIT]] to argue that the event does not independently meet notability guidelines as an aviation accident. They argued that per [[WP:PAGEDECIDE]] the reader would be best served by merging the articles and that the notability for this event cannot be inherited from the notability of Jiménez. 

Opponents of the merge argued that the death of Jiménez is in itself notable per [[WP:GNG]] and that [[WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE]] is guaranteed by the forthcoming accident report. Furthermore, they argued that per PAGEDECIDE readers seeking information on Jiménez's death would be better served by a separate article. The argument that "merging is for non-notable events mentioned in passing" was not considered because it ignores important parts of [[WP:MERGEREASON]].<ins> Just because an event, in this case a death, is notable, doesn't mean that it needs its own article. In this case readers are best served by keeping all of the information in one article.</ins>

There is general agreement among editors that:
* The death of Jiménez is notable.
* The crash, absent a notable person's death, would not be meet notability guidelines and that the aviation details of the crash are secondary in the notability of the event.
* There is agreement that ''if'' the page is kept independent of the main article it should be renamed "Death of Yeison Jiménez". However, proponents of the merge argued convincingly that the content of this page would be best placed in the proposed destination article <ins> and that a "Death of Yeison Jiménez" article would be inappropriate per PAGEDECIDE. </ins>
[[User:ScrubbedFalcon|ScrubbedFalcon]] ([[User talk:ScrubbedFalcon|talk]]) 16:29, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

:Works for me. [[User:Iseult|<span style="color: #35b794">'''I'''seult</span>]]<span style="color: #3558b7;"><sup>[[Special:Contribs/Iseult|'' Δx '']]</sup>[[User talk:Iseult|talk to me]]</span> 16:55, 7 March 2026 (UTC)

*It's the correct close, but the closing statement needs to explain more clearly why the "keep" side has it wrong.—[[User:S Marshall|<b style="font-family: Verdana; color: Maroon;">S&nbsp;Marshall</b>]]&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:S Marshall|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/S Marshall|C]]</small> 18:39, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you both for the feedback! I added some more explanation, hoping to post it tomorrow.  [[User:ScrubbedFalcon|ScrubbedFalcon]] ([[User talk:ScrubbedFalcon|talk]]) 19:37, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
:::If it was me, I think I'd also give more detail on why the argument from precedent fails, and why the IP addresses !voting get less weight than the experienced generalist editors. There's a good chance of at least one editor being very surprised about this close so expect some pushback.—[[User:S Marshall|<b style="font-family: Verdana; color: Maroon;">S&nbsp;Marshall</b>]]&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:S Marshall|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/S Marshall|C]]</small> 20:32, 8 March 2026 (UTC)