Editing Eurovision Wiki:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement (section)

==Riposte97==
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===Request concerning Riposte97===
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There's a discussion on the [[Donald Trump]] talk page regarding whether the [[Persecution of transgender people under the second Trump administration]] can *really* be called persecution in wikivoice. I am on that page arguing yes. Riposte has taken the opposite stance, saying that it is {{tq|extremely bad taste}} to compare the same measures against other minority groups throughout history (wrt to the appropriate use of the word "persecution") to the actions being discussed here.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Donald_Trump&diff=prev&oldid=1341193230] Not because of the stance he has taken, but in the course of his discussion of that stance and more widely in the GENSEX topic area, Riposte's conduct since his last GENSEX AE thread two weeks ago has been subpar.

I would have waited for more severe conduct before filing this, however @{{u|Tamzin}} previously said to {{tq|'''please bring GENSEX AE cases much more often'''}}.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1292115303] Kindly give him the trout or something?

#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Donald_Trump&diff=prev&oldid=1341205289 Mar 1, 2026] Personal attack
#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Imane_Khelif&diff=prev&oldid=1339091814 Feb 18, 2026] Aspersions on a talk page discussion about Imane Khelif
#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Imane_Khelif&diff=prev&oldid=1339091605 Feb 18, 2026] Personal attack on the Imane Khelif page

Previous edits raised in the last thread by various users:

#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1336829253&diff=1336880182 Feb 6, 2026] Editing the Imane Khelif page without sourcing for the purpose of, per {{u|theleekycauldron}}, {{tq|casting doubt on Khelif being cisgender}}[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive365]
#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1329892520 Dec 28, 2025] OR to a similar effect 


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#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Riposte97&diff=prev&oldid=1338346073 Feb 14, 2026] Just two weeks ago, he was warned for GENSEX conduct.
#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1230328356 June 22, 2024] BRD warning on Hunter Biden. Not relevant to GENSEX, but the jump from the Hunter Biden page to the Donald Trump page is not a far one.
#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1230345013&diff=1231096823] TBan from indigenous peoples of North America for conduct raised at ANI

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#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Riposte97&diff=prev&oldid=1338346073 Feb 14, 2026] Being warned for GENSEX conduct two weeks ago.


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#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Riposte97&diff=prev&oldid=1177755512] Has a userbar calling himself a member of the God Emperor's Inquisition. I trust we're all nerds enough here to recognize the connotation.

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===Discussion concerning Riposte97===
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====Statement by Riposte97====
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Bruh. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 02:53, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

:@[[User:TarnishedPath|TarnishedPath]] are you saying Americans are a race? Be serious. In any case, we’re both Australian, and you know as well as I do that yank is not used as an insult. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 03:48, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
:@[[User:Theleekycauldron|Theleekycauldron]] re the two edits of 18 Feb, I was trying to be tongue-in-cheek. My detractors have failed to mention that I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Imane%20Khelif&diff=1339141376&oldid=1339139575 apologised] once it was made clear to me that it was coming across wrong. 
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:The comment today was the gentlest possible rebuke to somebody appearing to indirectly suggest that I would support the holocaust. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 04:13, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
:I see we’re getting the band back together. Well, I’ve no interest in responding to everyone point-by-point. Uninvolved admins can assess the strength of those arguments. I still find bizarre the hand-wave that Imane Khelif, an Algerian Arab, is ‘basically black’ because…why? She’s from Africa? That is ''actual'' racism, not just an accusation that can be weaponised in a petty online crusade. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 21:41, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
::As a side note, she is not an ‘indigenous Algerian’ either, as far as I can tell. That term in a domestic context does not mean what it means in the West, and would seem to imply she is a Berber. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 21:49, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Simonm223|Simonm223]] read the sentence after the one you selectively quoted. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 12:42, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Newslinger|Newslinger]], I stand by that comment, and if that means I fall on my sword, so be it. Simonm223 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1341482862 said] {{tq|Riposte97 has asked the lead to introduce doubt as to whether Khelif is a '''woman'''}} (emphasis mine), quoting me as saying '''"stating unequivocally that she is female is, in my view, no longer responsible"'''. In the ''very next sentence'', I say, '''"It would be more responsible to say that Khelif was born a woman."''' I don't believe it is battleground behaviour to call our that kind of selective quotation. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 23:42, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
:@[[User:Arcticocean|Arcticocean]] Could you please tell me exactly what I've said that violated content rules severely enough to merit a ban? Or is the rule that if enough mud is thrown at someone, some has to stick? [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 09:57, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
:@[[User:MjolnirPants|MjolnirPants]] I doubt you'll need to retire to your fainting couch, particularly considering that just since the start of February, and just on that page, you have attacked fellow editors [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1336940715 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1336956799 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1336961446 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1336966455 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1336970019 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1336983414 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1336989719 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337029121 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337448349 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337477167 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337477541 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337488508 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337607581 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337608743 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337611197 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337646041 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337646446 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337654865 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337655925 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337661846 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337816880 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1338002896 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1341489895 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1341490709 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1341513676 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1341518796 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1341522295 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1341525500 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1341529615 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1342049147 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1342057610 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1342064372 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1342065332 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1342540975 again]. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 00:58, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
::...and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Imane_Khelif&diff=prev&oldid=1342759295 again] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Imane_Khelif&diff=prev&oldid=1342791923 again] and gearing up for some gravedancing re this very thread [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MjolnirPants&diff=prev&oldid=1342794080 here]. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 00:06, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

I'm probably close to the word limit, so I will content myself with one final observation: something that ''is'' hugley disruptive to this project is when a brigade comes together to systematically pursue someone with a different opinion on noticeboards. It wastes an unbeliveable amount of editor time, and when successful, is a large contributor to the systemic bias of this website, weakening the experience for readers. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 00:30, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

:As the Alans, Goths, and Vandals continue to circle the borders, I'd like to request a modest word extension to defend any other points that emerge. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 01:04, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
::@[[User:Theleekycauldron|Theleekycauldron]] I'm not alleging a coordinated conspiracy, just making what I think is a pretty obvious observations about how noticeboard discussions operate. They are far more likely to be an extension of a content disagreement than some kind of neutral community assessment of behaviour. The person filing this complaint freely owned (with commendable honesty) that we had a content disagreement. Some of my other accusers in this thread have said far more objectionable things in GENSEX from an objective standpoint, but decided to lay the boot into me, I assume because our disagreements trump consistency. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 04:22, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
:::As a sidenote, are delusions of grandeur not permitted? Apologies, I was unaware. I will restrict self-comparisons to the Mughal Empire and smaller. [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]] ([[User talk:Riposte97|talk]]) 04:27, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

====Statement by TarnishedPath====
Noting that the two comments towards Simonm223 at [[Talk:Imane Khelif]] ([[Special:Diff/1339082921]] and [[Special:Diff/1339091605]]) aren't just personal attacks, they're also explicit acts of racism. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;"><u>talk</u></b>]]</sup> 03:15, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

:@[[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]], you and I both know that tone and usage are large parts of whether terms like that are meant as insults. Telling someone to stop acting like a yank, after they've told you that they aren't a yank is unambiguously using the term in an insulting and racist manner. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;"><u>talk</u></b>]]</sup> 03:55, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
:@[[User:ErnestKrause|ErnestKrause]], writes the following:
:{{tq|Editing on Political pages can often be a heightened and contested area to start with, and <b>it seems that some added latitude should be allowed in the cases where Politically centered questions are disputed</b>}} (my emphasis). This is entirely incorrect. The exact opposite is expected in CTOP areas. Refer to [[Wikipedia:Contentious topics#General provisions]]. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;"><u>talk</u></b>]]</sup> 22:11, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

====Statement by Simonm223====
I'm commenting here because I was mentioned. I wasn't personally very offended by Riposte97 erroneously calling me a "Yank". People forgetting Canada is a sovereign country with people who are influenced by but distinct from the United States is, frankly, kind of normal online. I was even willing to extend the AGF that they didn't intend the expression as an insult. But I do have some racism related concerns with Riposte97's comment that I think are more serious. And that's to do with the real thrust of their comment here: {{tq|she isn't black}}. Khelif is an indigenous Algerian and Algeria is a north-African country with a [[Algerian War|recent history of severe colonialism]]. My comment was to situate the culture war furor which has made managing that page difficult for two years in the context of intersectional marginalization. "Black" was effectively used as short hand for North-African woman of colour. Attempting to suggest there is some specifically ''American'' thing about recognizing how her ethnicity was impactful upon the media circus seems almost willfully obtuse. I've had concerns with Riposte97 and ''race'' issues long before I encountered them on gender issues. This was present in their disruptive editing of [[Canadian Indian residential school gravesites]] of which this diff is a good example [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1225880837] and their contributions to the [[Grooming gangs scandal]] talk page such as this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1296529394]. I was unaware of the dispute about Donald Trump and his ''patently obvious'' oppression of trans people because I don't watch the Donald Trump page very closely but I would say there is a consistent pattern to Riposte97's editing across political topics. [[User:Simonm223|Simonm223]] ([[User talk:Simonm223|talk]]) 12:59, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
:These diffs from this morning are also pertinent to this discussion as Riposte97 has asked the lead to introduce doubt as to whether Khelif is a woman, saying {{tq|stating unequivocally that she is female is, in my view, no longer responsible}}: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AImane_Khelif&diff=1341437587&oldid=1341376322] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AImane_Khelif&diff=1341448522&oldid=1341440523]. [[User:Simonm223|Simonm223]] ([[User talk:Simonm223|talk]]) 12:33, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

====Statement by MjolnirPants====
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I don't have a whole lot of experience interacting with Riposte. In fact, most of my interactions with them consisted of them apparently [[WP:PROVOKE|fishing for a reaction]] that they could use to [[WP:GAME|get me removed]] from this topic. 

[[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1215#MjolnirPants CIV issues|The result]] of those efforts was a narrow escape from a [[WP:BOOMARANG|boomarang]]. Which, of course did not seem to register, as no sooner was that thread shut down, they decided to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1338222005 cast more aspersions] on editors who disagree with them.

See specifically [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1338191323 this comment of mine] in the above-linked ANI discussion, where I lay out some problematic diffs I'd found with a look at just part of the first page of their edit history. [[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:#004400;">'''ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants'''</span>]] <small><small>[[User_talk:MjolnirPants|''Tell me all about it.'']]</small></small> 15:13, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

* {{tq|The argument that Riposte is deliberately provoking other editors in an effort to get them sanctioned may also warrant investigation.}} 
:{{ping|Toadspike}}, see the statement by M. Bitton, who observed the same behavior. I would note that I can be a sort of lightning rod for this sort of nonsense, as I'm generally unafraid of using sarcasm, foul language and colorful euphemisms in my communications, and that creates the impression of a hotter head than I actually have. Also, being the author of [[WP:NONAZIS]] doesn't help. So it's not surprising that efforts to the same end directed elsewhere weren't followed through as far as they were with me. [[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:#004400;">'''ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants'''</span>]] <small><small>[[User_talk:MjolnirPants|''Tell me all about it.'']]</small></small> 13:20, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
* I woke up today to find that Riposte is still engaged in the exact same type of behavior that almost caused their [[WP:BOOMARANG]] back at AN. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Imane_Khelif&diff=prev&oldid=1342094098# They decided to cast some aspersions again]. For context, the comment they are replying to was one in which I said that the [[transvestigation]] of a successful female athlete was motivated by "[[transphobia|hate]]", and in which I implied a distinction between the editors here and those engaged in pushing this narrative. It's quite telling that they would take an attack on a minority belief as a personal attack. [[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:#004400;">'''ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants'''</span>]] <small><small>[[User_talk:MjolnirPants|''Tell me all about it.'']]</small></small> 15:02, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
* Many of the diffs of mine Riposte just posted were previously posted in the ANI thread they started about me. I've documented how that went, above. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1337448349 This one in particular] illustrates how bad-faith Riposte's attack is: I'm literally directly answering a question without providing any commentary or interpretation. Just a factual answer to a direct question.
:<small>(Apologies if I have exceeded my word count. I will not post here again unless asked a question.)</small> [[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:#004400;">'''ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants'''</span>]] <small><small>[[User_talk:MjolnirPants|''Tell me all about it.'']]</small></small> 13:05, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

====Statement by Black Kite====
I note that Riposte97 is still trying to bend the edges of [[WP:BLP]] at [[Talk:Imane_Khelif#Lead:_Transvestigation_and_Genetic_Sex]].  Just read that opening comment and ask yourself what the motivations are of someone who thinks this is important. [[User_talk:Black Kite|Black Kite (talk)]] 15:04, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

====Statement by ErnestKrause====
I'm not a participant in the topic discussion under question here and am responding mainly to the conduct issues being raised against Riposte97. The comment from Toadspike below needs to be taken seriously as to whether the high bar of conduct issues has in some way been breeched, which Toadspike states does not appear to be the case here. Editing on Political pages can often be a heightened and contested area to start with, and it seems that some added latitude should be allowed in the cases where Politically centered questions are disputed. Siding with Toadspike seems to be a good path to take here, with emphasis that care should be taken when Political issues are being disputed. Going with Toadspike on this. [[User:ErnestKrause|ErnestKrause]] ([[User talk:ErnestKrause|talk]]) 15:40, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

====Statement by M.Bitton====
I second what Black Kite said. [[Special:Diff/1341437587|Claims]] such as {{tq|The second issue with the above phrase is that is asserts that claims Khelif is biologically male (again, nothing to do with her gender identity) are false. I simply do not believe we can make that assertion anymore, given the weight of sourcing that go so far as to say she is male.|q=yes}} can only mean one thing and one thing only.

As for them deliberately provoking other editors, I will quote what Tamzin said in a [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive365#Riposte97|previous report]]: "Riposte decided who their allies are, and who their enemies are, and are treating users accordingly":
*they tried what [[#c-MjolnirPants-20260302151300-Statement_by_MjolnirPants_2|they did to MjolnirPants]] with me too, except that in my case, the report was [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1214#h-User:M.Bitton_conduct-20260206100300|filed by a TA]].
*[[Special:Diff/1315688016|they suggested]] that [[Special:Diff/1313938400|this blatant BLP violation]] deserves a "good interpretation".
*they then made it clear that [[Special:Diff/1336915564|they disagree]] with the block of someone who has violated their TBAN, even suggesting that the editor has been vindicated.
*not only did they [[Special:Diff/1338222005|agree with an editor]] who was clearly casting aspersions, they doubled down on the aspersion. The views of the editor they agreed with [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1189#WP:BLP_and_WP:GENSEX_violations|are known]].
*to defend someone who clearly violated the BLP, [[Special:Diff/1339332696|they falsely insinuated]] that I did the same, and even [[Special:Diff/1339347072|misrepresented]] what I said. Luckily, Valereee's [[Special:Diff/1339437565|intervention]] stopped the nonsense.
*they [[Special:Diff/1340074238|claimed]] that "People feel their personal credibility is at stake" (another provocation), while agreeing with an editor [[Special:Diff/1339970815|who claimed]] that "Virtually nobody who follows this story is the slightest bit surprise".

====Statement by Valereee====
Commenting here because I am involved w/re:GENSEX at Imane Khelif. IMO that talk page needs to be ECR'd. It's bad enough when multiple experienced editors are being disruptive in ways that are ''just'' not ''quite'' disruptive enough to get them pblocked from it, but the talk also gets heavy attention from newer-but-AC editors drawn there by every bit of breaking news sparking outrage in social media. This is a BLP, and things being posted at that talk are overwhelming for well-intentioned editors there. [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 12:49, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

:@[[User:Fiveby|Fiveby]], discussion among/between non-party commenters here is almost never helpful and causes more work for workers here. If you disagree with something another commenter has said, it's generally more helpful to express that ''to the workers here'' rather than starting a discussion with that commenter. Happy to discuss at my talk, though. [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 15:00, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
Toadspike has [[User_talk:Toadspike#Riposte97 AE thread|invited me]] to point out he probably should have mentioned [[Special:Diff/1343388888|here]] that he was asked by Kingsindian to respond to AO's intention to close. [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 14:56, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

====Statement by fiveby====
Valereee, if as you say "multiple experienced editors are being disruptive" then why is the solution ECR? Can you demonstrate that these newer editors are not "well-intentioned"? [[User:Fiveby|fiveby]]([[User talk:Fiveby|zero]]) 14:02, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

====Statement by Kingsindian====
I will begin with a disclosure: I voted in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Imane_Khelif#RfC:_SRY_gene recent RfC] on the Imane Khelif article, and I have written about this matter on Wikipediocracy. I have not edited the article itself. I note that none of the other participants in this discussion appear to have made the equivalent disclosure, despite the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contentious_topics#Decorum requirement] that {{tq|Editors participating in enforcement cases must disclose fully their involvement with parties (if any).}} That omission is worth noting, given that most of the commenters here are in active content disputes with {{u|Riposte97}}, including on the RfC above, which did not go their way.

The original filing contained three diffs showing talk page comments, for which {{u|Riposte97}} has already apologized and which {{u|Toadspike}} has found not sanctionable -- noting that the first diff came in response to another editor comparing a viewpoint to failure to condemn the Holocaust. In my view, the original filing was thin. What followed was a series of additional allegations made by several parties. The current approach -- assessing each charge in turn and moving on when it proves unactionable -- is procedurally inadequate, because it provides no disincentive whatsoever to bad-faith filing. It structurally rewards a "throw mud and see what sticks" strategy, whether or not that is anyone's intention here. From the perspective of someone casting a wide net, the downside is zero.

The racism allegation illustrates this problem directly. {{u|Toadspike}} has found it unactionable, stating that the evidence {{tq|is not clear enough to be sanctionable.}} But that finding raises a follow-up question this discussion has so far avoided: does making an unsubstantiated allegation of racism against a fellow editor constitute [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contentious_topics#Decorum casting aspersions]? That is explicitly prohibited in enforcement discussions: {{tq|Insults and personal attacks, soapboxing and casting aspersions are as unacceptable in enforcement discussions as elsewhere on Wikipedia}}. "Not actionable against the subject" and "appropriate to have said" are not the same standard, and treating them as equivalent lets the conduct pass without examination.

These are experienced editors familiar with AE procedures. They should be aware that {{tq|The scope of a discussion is limited to the conduct of two parties: the filer and the user being reported.}} If they believe there is a genuine case, they should file their own focused request with specific evidence, with the understanding that their own conduct would then be in scope. The current proceeding, as conducted, rewards exactly the behavior the policy is designed to deter. [[User:Kingsindian|Kingsindian]]&nbsp;[[User Talk: Kingsindian|&#9821;]]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Kingsindian|&#9818;]] 11:39, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

====Statement by Emeraldflames====
I don't know the particulars of every one of [[User:Riposte97|Riposte97]]'s comments, but I looked through a sampling and the ones I have seen did not seem to cross a line. Some of the interpretations of certain things he has said do not appear to be at all reasonable to me. 

I would also like to 100% support his point that a number of the individuals commenting here have, themselves, come across quite aggressively and [[WP:Incivil]].  Far, far more aggressive and incivil than anything I have ever seen him comment on the Imane Khelif page.  The most egregious example is [[User:MjolnirPants|MjolnirPants]].

Very recent examples:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Imane_Khelif&diff=prev&oldid=1342759295 Example 1]
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Imane_Khelif&diff=prev&oldid=1342064372 Example 2]
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Imane%20Khelif&diff=prev&oldid=1342064372 Example 3]

For him to be here commenting on civility is actually quite remarkable. And this is rather typical of the attitudes of a certain bloc of editors on Wikipedia. 

I would also *completely* agree that there is the appearance of a brigade here with a very similar [[WP:POV]], very similar interests, etc.  It absolutely is a large contributor to the systemic bias, which, unfortunately, as per the previous examples is actually both ''blatant'' and rampant on Wikipedia. 

This is a very serious issue and existential threat to the goals of Wikipedia and I hope there are admins that understand and will act to remedy this. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Emeraldflames|Emeraldflames]] ([[User talk:Emeraldflames#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Emeraldflames|contribs]]) 18:38, 10 March 2026 (UTC)</small>

====Statement by GoodDay====
I looked over Riposte97's userpage. I don't see any "God Emperor's Inquistion" membership bar. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 18:43, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

===Result concerning Riposte97===
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* Riposte, regardless of what -isms those comments might be described as, can you explain what your thought process was in deciding that those comments were constructive before posting them? (From Feb. 18 onward, to be clear. The other edits have already been considered.) [[user:theleekycauldron|theleekycauldron]] ([[User talk:Theleekycauldron|talk]] • she/her) 03:56, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
*:{{yo|Riposte97}} It's certainly one of the bolder strategies i've seen to – at an AE where you're accused of being incivil to people you disagree with – accuse every editor who disagrees with you of being in a conspiracy against you in which you compare yourself to the Roman Empire and do not provide evidence. and, re the word extension: no, you are not getting one preemptively, and even if you <em>did</em> have actual text to respond to, I'm not exactly inclined to have you contribute more to the discourse in considering what your contributions have been so far. I still think that the edits from previous AEs aren't <em>live</em> controversies, but I agree with Arcticocean that they should be examined here as part of the pattern of conduct. [[user:theleekycauldron|theleekycauldron]] ([[User talk:Theleekycauldron|talk]] • she/her) 03:46, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
* While Riposte97's edits before 18 February were reviewed in the previous AE report, the edits are still relevant now. Enforcing admins previously (including me) then regarded the breaches of decorum as trivial, but the breaches are continuing to mount up. With the benefit of a longer period of analysis, I think it is also becoming apparent that the breaches are invariably directed at users with opposing editorial views and taking place within live discussions of BLP controversy. I think this is rising to the level of topic ban to prevent further disruption. I'd like to hear the view of other enforcing admins. [[User:Arcticocean|<span style="color:#5A4FCF">Arctic'''ocean'''&nbsp;■</span>]] 09:49, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
*: Repeated warnings are highly unusual and [[WP:CT#Dismissing an enforcement request|not generally encouraged under CTOP]]. In my view, another warning would be an inappropriate outcome from this enforcement request. Enforcing admins have broadly agreed that there has been misconduct and battleground editing. Unless another admins objects or raises a new concern, I will impose a topic ban as the enforcement request outcome. [[User:Arcticocean|<span style="color:#5A4FCF">Arctic'''ocean'''&nbsp;■</span>]] 22:20, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
*::As Toadspike has now objected, I am going to wait a few days for further comment from other admins. We don't by any means require unanimity here, and indeed only one admin appears to think a warning is the maximum justified sanction, but leaving more time for admin discussion cannot hurt. [[User:Arcticocean|<span style="color:#5A4FCF">Arctic'''ocean'''&nbsp;■</span>]] 17:16, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
* The first diff was not really an appropriate response to what came before it, but considering what came before it was a comment comparing another editor's views to failure to condemn the Holocaust followed by a frustrated rant, I don't think Riposte is responsible for derailing that conversation. The comments on nationality (diffs 2 and 3) were in poor taste, especially the second one (diff 3). However, since Riposte apologized for these and struck the offending term, and since Simon says he "wasn't personally very offended", I don't think any action is warranted. 
: In my view, the evidence supporting the accusations of racism is not clear enough to be sanctionable, and similarly the two diffs linked in Simon's first reply do not seem sanctionable. To sanction an editor for expressing a point of view, that point of view must be so extreme that it is disruptive. The points of view expressed here have not, in my view, reached that high bar. 
: MjolnirPants's first diff shows Riposte speculating on other editors' motivations, which is basically never appropriate and might warrant a warning about personal attacks. I have not reviewed all the diffs linked in MjolnirPants's ANI comment [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1338191323#MjolnirPants_CIV_issues], which argues that there is a broader pattern of disruptive talk page conduct. That ANI thread was closed with a recommendation to take complaints against Riposte to AE, but it doesn't look like that was done or that these diffs have been reviewed here, so we may want to review them. The argument that Riposte is deliberately provoking other editors in an effort to get them sanctioned may also warrant investigation. '''[[User:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant:small-caps">Toadspike</span>]] [[User talk:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant:small-caps">[Talk]</span>]]''' 14:34, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
::After reviewing the comments made by my colleagues' and others since my last post, I remain undecided. Riposte's behavior has not been exemplary, but neither has the behavior of several others here, not least the repeated and in my view spurious accusations of racism in this very thread. I fear hewing strictly to the two-party rule and letting a lot of concerning behavior slide will be seen as an endorsement of that behavior and will not be the best outcome we can get for the project. '''[[User:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant:small-caps">Toadspike</span>]] [[User talk:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant:small-caps">[Talk]</span>]]''' 00:20, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Toadspike|Toadspike]]: I think you're right that there's more to do here, but it might make more sense to start with a fresh thread on one or more of the people we also want to look at. Doesn't have to be a super-detailed filing, just "follow-up on this thread, concerns that were raised include x y z". This thread is already pretty big and I worry that expanding the scope now would be unwieldy. [[user:theleekycauldron|theleekycauldron]] ([[User talk:Theleekycauldron|talk]] • she/her) 06:35, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
::I've reviewed all the diffs in the ANI comment linked by MjolnirPants, as well as the others they linked. The only two I found possibly actionable are [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Donald_Trump&diff=prev&oldid=1336265821] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Imane_Khelif&diff=prev&oldid=1337707060]. The former seems to be implying that [[Naomi Klein]]'s political views make her book unreliable for a sentence on Trump's communication style, which was also supported by other sources. The latter is just a really insensitive statement to make. I'm not impressed by how many of the MjolnirPants's descriptions of diffs in their ANI comment are inaccurate at best. I also don't like how many of them are effectively arguing that an editor expressing their opinion on a talk page is some kind of behavioral violation. Users are allowed to express their opinion about sources and blocks, even if those opinions are wrong. 
::Riposte has since dumped three dozen diffs of alleged personal attacks by MjolnirPants. Several of these are obviously not personal attacks, which reflects poorly on him. Many may be, but that is out of the scope of this thread and should be reviewed in a separate filing. As an aside, I strongly recommend that MjolnirPants stop threatening other editors with admin action; it is generally sufficient and more polite to call out misbehavior without explicitly spelling out the potential consequences. 
::Reviewing M.Bitton's comment, the only parts that seem actionable are Riposte's speculation on other editors' motivations (e.g. "People feel their personal credibility is at stake"), which I already covered in my first comment. 
::I think that covers most of the evidence here. I would '''support a warning for Riposte97''', primarily on grounds of [[WP:CIV|civility]]. I '''oppose a topic ban''' as the previous warning was for different issues ("Riposte97 is warned to be more mindful of WP:BLP and WP:NPOV" [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Riposte97&diff=prev&oldid=1338346073#Arbitration_enforcement_warning]) and I do not see the violations here as sufficient to justify a topic ban, especially in relation to the vast quantity and severity of accusations made. More broadly, we should not refuse to issue a second warning simply because we have issued a previous warning in the same topic area. '''[[User:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant:small-caps">Toadspike</span>]] [[User talk:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant:small-caps">[Talk]</span>]]''' 13:04, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
:::<small>{{reply|Toadspike}}</small> To issue a warning at AE, [[WP:CT#Dismissing an enforcement request|I think we have to conclude]] that either 'no actual violation occurred' or 'exceptional circumstances are present, which would make the imposition of a sanction inappropriate'. If I may ask, are you viewing the receipt of a previous warning for disrupting the topic area as an exceptional circumstance? Or is it the possible tit-for-tat conduct that you regard as exceptional? [[User:Arcticocean|<span style="color:#5A4FCF">Arctic'''ocean'''&nbsp;■</span>]] 13:29, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
::::That's not how I understand the quoted bit. A logged warning is an editing restriction. We are allowed to issue warnings even if a violation occurred. 
::::Re: "tit-for-tat" – the high proportion of irrelevant diffs and unsupported accusations here makes clear to me that we have two camps of editors here going after each other primarily because of their content disputes. In CTOPs this is not "exceptional", but on the project as a whole it is. I took this into consideration as I don't want to reward this kind of behavior. '''[[User:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant:small-caps">Toadspike</span>]] [[User talk:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant:small-caps">[Talk]</span>]]''' 13:56, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::I understand your position better now. Thanks for responding. [[User:Arcticocean|<span style="color:#5A4FCF">Arctic'''ocean'''&nbsp;■</span>]] 17:13, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
* <del>I support a logged warning of Riposte97</del> for persistent [[WP:BATTLE|battleground conduct]] (including violations of the [[WP:PA|policy against personal attacks]]), which would be Riposte97's second logged warning in the [[WP:CT/GG]] (gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them) contentious topic. It is already rare for an editor to receive two logged warnings for the same topic area instead of a topic ban, so if Riposte97 does not improve their conduct in this contentious topic, their next reported policy violation in [[WP:CT/GG]] is likely to result in a topic ban (instead of a third logged warning) even if it is of similar severity to the ones reported here. —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 12:10, 9 March 2026 (UTC); edited to strike superseded position 11:41, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
*:If you are thinking about a second warning, you should probably bite the bullet and issue a topic ban instead -- [[User:Guerillero|Guerillero]] <sup>[[User_talk:Guerillero|<span style="color: green;">Parlez Moi</span>]]</sup> 07:05, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
*:: That is certainly one of the rules of thumb that have been used on this noticeboard. With Riposte97 continuing to engage in battleground editing in this enforcement request itself (e.g. [[Special:Diff/1341588355]]), I would not support closing this enforcement request without some kind of action for Riposte97, and I am looking for a remedy that would curb this conduct issue in a proportionate manner. Riposte97 appears to apply different behavioral standards for other editors than they do for themself, as seen in the list of diffs they allege to be personal attacks in [[Special:Diff/1342638113]], which suggests that Riposte97 is behaving in the [[WP:CT/GG]] contentious topic in a manner that they already understand to be below Wikipedia's conduct standards. —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 13:00, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
*:::{{re|Riposte97}} Speculating about another editor's motivations based on what you assumed their nationality is ([[Special:Diff/1339082921]]) and then telling the editor that they should stop acting like a person of that nationality after they stated their nationality is different than what you had assumed ([[Special:Diff/1339091605]]) are both instances of battleground conduct. Unless an editor cites their own nationality in the discussion, there is no valid justification for bringing it into the conversation as part of your argument. While Simonm223 did not take serious offense, that does <ins>not</ins> make your comments about their nationality acceptable.{{pb}}Please note that you have exceeded your word limit here to post additional accusations against editors who are not even within the scope of this enforcement request ({{xt|"the conduct of two parties: the filer and the user being reported"}}), despite having been [[#c-Theleekycauldron-20260310034600-Theleekycauldron-20260302035600|denied a word extension]] due to the quality of your participation here, which is yet another example of battleground conduct.{{pb}}Based on Riposte97's behavior in this enforcement request and the fact that Riposte97 had already received a logged warning in [[WP:CT/GG]], I agree with Guerillero that a logged warning for Riposte97 would be insufficient, and I would support an indefinite topic ban of Riposte97 from [[WP:CT/GG]] for persistent battleground conduct, although I would also support a lesser remedy if there is one that can adequately moderate Riposte97's talk page behavior. —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 10:53, 11 March 2026 (UTC); edited to add missing word 14:03, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
* I have applied the [[WP:AEPR|AE participation restriction]] to this enforcement request, as editors are continuing to make arguments that are outside the scope of this request ({{xt|"the conduct of two parties: the filer and the user being reported"}}). Anyone who wants to post a complaint about any other editor's conduct may file a new report. —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 11:13, 11 March 2026 (UTC)