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== 03:19, 14 March 2026 review of submission by ReflectionInTheKoiPond ==
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I am writing to request a review of this draft for Reflection in the Koi Pond. I want to be fully transparent that I am the artist described in the article, and I am aware of Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest (COI) policies.

I have made every effort to maintain a neutral, encyclopedic tone and have avoided promotional language. My goal is to demonstrate notability under the WP:NMUSIC guidelines. Specifically, I have included citations from independent, reliable secondary sources.

I would appreciate feedback on whether the current sourcing is sufficient to establish notability or if the tone needs further adjustment to meet Wikipedia’s standards. Thank you for your time and guidance. [[User:ReflectionInTheKoiPond|ReflectionInTheKoiPond]] ([[User talk:ReflectionInTheKoiPond|talk]]) 03:19, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

:{{tq|Specifically, I have included citations from independent, reliable secondary sources.}} No, you haven't. [[User:Athanelar|Athanelar]] ([[User talk:Athanelar|talk]]) 03:32, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:ReflectionInTheKoiPond|ReflectionInTheKoiPond]], and thank you for declaring your conflict of interest here. Please make sure to do so on your userpage - instructions are at [[WP:COIE]]. 
:You have submitted the draft for review, so it's in the review pool now and will be reviewed in due time. We don't do pre-review reviews, as that defeats the purpose of reviews! As the big yellow box at the top of your draft now says, {{tq|Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 8 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,895 pending submissions waiting for review.}} You can continue to improve the draft while you wait. I suggest looking for sources and assessing them against [[WP:42]]. You will need three or more sources that meet ''all three'' criteria in WP:42. You will also need to use [[WP:REFB|Referencing for beginners]] to cite those sources. Every statement made in the draft ''must'' be supported by a source cited right after that statement. 
:If you have used AI/LLMs to generate the draft, or to talk to us here, please know that it is not permitted to use AI/LLMs to write drafts and that using AI/LLMs to talk to other editors is heavily discouraged. You'll get much better responses if you use your own words, even if your English isn't perfect. Machines don't understand what we're telling them to do, and will make promises they can't keep. We want to talk to the humans. I wish you good luck in finding some excellent sources, and happy editing. [[User:Meadowlark|Meadowlark]] ([[User talk:Meadowlark|talk]]) 03:42, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
::Hello Meadowlark and Athanelar, thank you both for your detailed feedback and guidance. I understand that my draft currently lacks the required independent, reliable sources and significant coverage needed to demonstrate notability under Wikipedia’s music guidelines.
::I will focus on identifying and adding sources that meet the WP:42 criteria, and ensure every statement in the draft is properly cited. I will also review the guidance on COI declaration and referencing to make sure everything is correctly formatted.
::For clarity, I am not using AI or language models to write the draft or communicate here; all content is my own words.
::I appreciate your time and patience while I work on improving the draft. [[User:ReflectionInTheKoiPond|ReflectionInTheKoiPond]] ([[User talk:ReflectionInTheKoiPond|talk]]) 04:01, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Exactly which criteria of [[WP:MUSICBIO]] do you believe you meet? ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] (who / me) <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 06:23, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
::::I work with a Korean recording organization called "6v6 recordings (https://en.namu.wiki/w/6v6%20Recordings)", most of the members in it are on Wikipedia except me, I believe it'd be nice to put all of us on Wikipedia. [[User:ReflectionInTheKoiPond|ReflectionInTheKoiPond]] ([[User talk:ReflectionInTheKoiPond|talk]]) 06:31, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::You didn't answer the question. Which criteria of [[WP:MUSICBIO]] do you believe you meet?
:::::Also, en.namu.wiki has nothing to do with Wikipedia.
:::::The only member I see who has an article is [[Brokenteeth]], who apparently meets [[WP:MUSICBIO]] criterion #5. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] (who / me) <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 06:50, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::I understand the question... At this time, I believe I do not meet the WP:MUSICBIO notability criteria then. I am part of 6v6 Recordings, but my personal career has not yet received coverage or achievements that satisfy Wikipedia’s standards for independent notability. I will continue working on my music and hope to meet these criteria in the future, I apologize for wasting your time. [[User:ReflectionInTheKoiPond|ReflectionInTheKoiPond]] ([[User talk:ReflectionInTheKoiPond|talk]]) 06:54, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, I don't mind the conversation. I hope it helped you learn what Wikipedia requires for a music artist. I wish you good fortune in your career.
:::::::In the meantime, feel free to improve other articles (except you should avoid editing articles with which you have a conflict of interest, like [[Brokenteeth]] for example, but instead use [[WP:Edit Request Wizard]] to propose changes). Being a new editor trying to write an article right away is really hard and almost always fails. It's best to try creating a new article when you have more experience. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] (who / me) <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 07:11, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you so much! [[User:ReflectionInTheKoiPond|ReflectionInTheKoiPond]] ([[User talk:ReflectionInTheKoiPond|talk]]) 07:13, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Also, ''why'' do you want an article about yourself on Wikipedia? Is it vanity? Publicity? Search engine optimization? None of those are valid reasons. If you are truly notable, someone will eventually come along and write an article about you. Whether that happens next month, 10 years from now, or after your life has ended, shouldn't matter to you in the least. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] (who / me) <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 06:25, 14 March 2026 (UTC)