Editing Talk:Particle (section)

== Contested close ==
:''Moved from [[User talk:Headbomb]]. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 18:21, 8 March 2026 (UTC)''
Hi! I just noticed that you reverted the close I performed on the discussion to merge [[massless particle]] into [[particle]] a few days ago. I have to say that I don't appreciate you reverting the close without contacting me at all. Per [[WP:CLOSECHALLENGE]] there are clear processes for contesting a close, even of a relatively informal discussion like a merge. I also noticed that you reverted @[[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]]'s edit that restored the initial close where they also mentioned in the edit summary that there are processes in place to contest a close. I can't find any evidence that you contacted them about that revert either. I've restored my initial close again and would appreciate it if you would discuss this with me before editing the close again. [[User:ScrubbedFalcon|ScrubbedFalcon]] ([[User talk:ScrubbedFalcon|talk]]) 18:14, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

:1) You're not an admin 2) What you bodly closed can be boldy re-closed. 3) More susbtantially the article proposed being merge is substantially different from what it was ''at any point'' during the discussion. That voids all virtually arguments made in the discussion, especially given that the newly added material to [[massive particle]] was explicitely objected to being merged into [[particle]]. There is ''zero'' consensus to add uberspecialist concepts like [[Weyl fermion]]s to a [[WP:BCA|broad concept article]] like [[particle]]. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 18:17, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
::1. Per [[WP:Closing discussions]] any uninvolved editor may close most discussions, not just admins. And regarding challenges to closes it says that "Closures will rarely be changed by either the closing editor or a closure review if the complaint is that the closer is not an admin."<br>2. I wouldn't say it was a bold closure, I was just closing the discussion. And again, I don't appreciate you reverting the close without contacting me at all.<br>3. Your objection seems to be about the merger of content from the massless particle article. The consensus I found was about merging massive particle to particle, I noted separately in the summary that a suggestion had been made about massless particles and said explicitly that consensus for that merge wasn't clear. It seems like you want to object to the close based on that note. [[User:ScrubbedFalcon|ScrubbedFalcon]] ([[User talk:ScrubbedFalcon|talk]]) 18:42, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
::I'm surprised to see such an experienced user not even know the basics of how formal discussions work on WP. Scrubbed is completely right here: "bold closures" aren't a thing, it's extremely rare to see merge proposals closed by admins, and there are processes in place for contesting closures.{{pb}}I'm also surprised that the only thing that wasn't reverted was my bold merger. Of course I'll revert it, since it appears, as Scrubbed says, that that's what you're actually opposed to. But please do read a few times the procedures for closures! [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 22:12, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Massless particle should be merged <s>here</s> <u>to [[massive particle]]</u>. That's fine. What shouldn't be merged is the new article to particle. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 00:08, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
::::Alright then, i've merged [[Massless particle]] again. To contest the closure of the discussion regarding mass''IVE'' particles, please follow the standard procedure. [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 19:50, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::Reverted, again. There is zero consensus for such a merge. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 20:19, 9 March 2026 (UTC)