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<noinclude>{{Short description|Page for discussing Wikipedia technical issues}} {{User:MiszaBot/config | archive = Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive %(counter)d | algo = old(5d) | counter = 228 | maxarchivesize = 500k | minthreadsleft = 4 | minthreadstoarchive = 1 | archiveheader = {{Wikipedia:Village pump/Archive header}} }}<!-- Please do not move these categories to the end of the page. If they are there, they will be removed by the process of archiving the page. --> [[Category:Wikipedia village pump]] [[Category:Non-talk pages that are automatically signed|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Category:Pages automatically checked for incorrect links]] [[Category:Pages that should not be manually archived]] <!-- --> {{Village pump page header|1=Technical|2=The '''technical''' section of the [[Wikipedia:Village pump|village pump]] is used to discuss technical issues ''about'' '''Wikipedia'''. 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[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 03:15, 10 March 2026 (UTC) :No easy or fast way. [[quarry:query/102943]]. A [[quarry:query/102942|similar search]] in all namespaces is fairly badly polluted by instances of "REVISIONUSER". —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] 03:35, 10 March 2026 (UTC) ::Maybe <code>REPLACE(comment_text, <nowiki>'REVISIONUSER', '') LIKE '%ONUS%'</nowiki></code>. [[User:Legoktm|Legoktm]] ([[User talk:Legoktm|talk]]) 01:47, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :::comment_text RLIKE '\\bONUS\\b' would've done it, but the query took close to ten minutes the first time - the copy on Quarry only seems fast because it was cached - so it didn't seem worth running again. —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] 02:11, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::::If you're into command-line stuff, there is a denormalized dump of every edit, broken down by month. See [[:wikitech:Data Platform/Data Lake/Edits/MediaWiki history]]. It's not trivial to get your head around the data organization, and you need a cloud account to access, but it's good for things like this. I ran <code>bzgrep ONUS 2026-02.enwiki.2026-0*</code> which took a little under 5 minutes and found 1169 lines. If you want, I could email you a copy. [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] [[User Talk:RoySmith|(talk)]] 12:05, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :::::If "a copy" means a human-readable text file, then I'd be very happy to have that in e-mail. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 04:36, 14 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::Thanks. In case anyone's curious, after removing false positives (mostly REVISI<u>ONUS</u>ER, but also words like ''bonus'') and discussions where we are talking about [[WP:ONUS]] but not invoking it, there were ~353 uses left (during the first two months of this year). [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 22:37, 15 March 2026 (UTC) == Phase 2: Reading lists results and scaling == Hi everyone, [[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 225#c-EBlackorby-WMF-20251112211600-Reading list test: entering phase 1|Back in November]] we shared that the [[mw:Reader/Reader_Experience|Reader Experience team]] was conducting an experiment to bring [[mw:Readers/Reader_Experience/WE3.3.4_Reading_lists|reading lists]] to the desktop and mobile web browser experience. We are back with updates and next steps. [[File:Mockup_of_saved_articles_page_on_desktop_English_Wikipedia.png|left|thumb|500x500px|Mockup of saved articles page on desktop English Wikipedia.]] We are experimenting with potential improvements to the reader experience because of [[diffblog:2025/10/17/new-user-trends-on-wikipedia/|declining pageviews to Wikipedia and fewer readers returning to the site]]. We think by strengthening the connection between existing readers and Wikipedia, we can help reverse these trends and help engage potential future editors. One way to build that relationship is by giving readers more ways to shape their reading experience. Reading lists will allow for that participation by giving logged-in readers the option to save articles they want to come back to later in a list accessible in their account. The feature is already highly utilized on the Apps, where it has contributed to improved reader retention. The experiment went live on Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese wikis in November, where we collected data for eight weeks on mobile and desktop. The experimental feature included: * Options for logged-in readers to save articles to a private list for reading later. * Ability for logged-in readers to access their list and delete articles that are no longer relevant. '''What did we find?''' The feature had good engagement. Our primary success metric was the clickthrough rate (CTR) on the save article icon. CTR measures how often readers engage with the feature, helping us understand whether people notice it and choose to use it. Typical web CTR is between 1-5%, but can be much lower for features which require an active or participatory action from the user. On English Wikipedia, we observed a clickthrough rate of 0.88% for the “save” button in the reading list experiment. This aligned with our expectations for the feature. Because saving an article reflects a specific intent through participation — returning to that article later — we did not expect engagement rates comparable to more general navigation actions. Readers create accounts, but need reading focused features to sustain them. Our experiment was intentionally limited to a fraction of all readers who are not editors so we wouldn’t interfere with existing editing and moderation workflows. As a result, very few people saw the feature, making the exposure rate of the experimental feature too low to give conclusive evidence on how reading lists on web affect user retention. This was a helpful finding for us: currently, readers who do not edit do not have much reason to have an account, since most logged-in features on Wikipedia are designed for editors. The test helped us better understand how reader-focused features may reach a distinct audience of account holders who engage with Wikipedia differently than editors. For this reason, we are trying out a beta feature before full rollout so we can learn more about user retention with this feature with a larger audience. Reading list users are active readers. Additionally, we found that readers that engaged with the feature had much higher rates of internal referrals – that is, that is, they more frequently navigated to other pages on Wikipedia. While this relationship is correlational rather than causal, it suggests that readers who already tend to spend more time exploring Wikipedia find particular value in this feature. '''What are we doing next?''' Based on the results above, we believe that reading lists is a feature readers are interested in and would like to collect more data on how people use it. To do this, we are planning on releasing reading lists on the desktop and mobile websites as a beta feature for logged-in readers. To increase exposure among readers we will enable the beta feature for all new accounts. Existing users will be able to turn reading lists on manually in the beta section of their user preferences. We will be collecting feedback via QuickSurveys on whether beta users find it to be useful. [[File:Screenshot_of_reading_lists_beta_feature_setting.png|thumb|500x500px|Screenshot of reading lists beta feature setting page.]] We’re planning on the following timeline: * Week of April 6: Release the feature on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. * April 6 - April 20: Monitor and fix any bugs. * Week of April 20: Release to all other Wikipedias. We encourage you to try out the beta feature and give us feedback on-wiki or via the survey. Additionally, we want to hear more from you. Do you have any other ideas for reading lists based on this information? Please share your thoughts and questions here. For more info, see our [[mw:Readers/Reader_Experience/WE3.3.4_Reading_lists|project page]]. Thank you. [[User:EBlackorby-WMF|EBlackorby-WMF]] ([[User talk:EBlackorby-WMF|talk]]) 21:05, 10 March 2026 (UTC) :{{tbq|1=To support current active readers on the wikis in their goals of learning from Wikipedia, we want to experiment with allowing readers to save articles to a list for reading later, helping them organize their knowledge while also building a practice of content curation that could pave the way for future contributions to Wikipedia.}} Back in the day, this would be called "browser bookmarks". [[user:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#c20;text-decoration:underline">sapphaline</span>]] ([[user talk:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#236;text-decoration:underline">talk</span>]]) 21:31, 10 March 2026 (UTC) ::[[Substack|Plenty]] [[Reddit|of]] [[X (social network)|other]] [[YouTube|websites]] have features to save posts or articles, perhaps because bookmarks are deemphasised in modern web browsers and people tend to use them less IME. In any case, I personally think anything that increases new editor intake is a good thing. [[User:Mir Novov|<b style="display:inline-flex;text-decoration:inherit;transform:matrix(1,0,0,1.4,1,-2);color:#070">novov</b>]] <b style="font-size:0.6em;filter:grayscale(1)">[[User talk:Mir Novov|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Mir Novov|edits]]</b> 00:48, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Mir Novov|Mir Novov]] "People tend to use them less". How do you know that? I think bookmarks are great and I use them frequently, [[User:David10244|David10244]] ([[User talk:David10244|talk]]) 02:21, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Anecdotally, I notice a lot of younger browser users don't use bookmarks apart from a few generic favourited sites, and mainly rely on tabs or other functionality for content they wish to revisit. [[User:Mir Novov|<b style="display:inline-flex;text-decoration:inherit;transform:matrix(1,0,0,1.4,1,-2);color:#070">novov</b>]] <b style="font-size:0.6em;filter:grayscale(1)">[[User talk:Mir Novov|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Mir Novov|edits]]</b> 02:39, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Mir Novov|Mir Novov]] I think a lot of that comes from the fact that so much browsing is done on mobile, and mobile bookmarks generally suck. <span class="nowrap">--[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User talk:Ahecht|<b style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:middle;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</b>]])</span> 19:54, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::I don't even have bookmarks in the mobile browser I use ([[Firefox Focus]]). [[User:Prototyperspective|Prototyperspective]] ([[User talk:Prototyperspective|talk]]) 21:13, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :::::@[[User:Mir Novov|Mir Novov]] From a statistician: "Anecdotes are not data". :-) [[User:David10244|David10244]] ([[User talk:David10244|talk]]) 16:31, 15 March 2026 (UTC) ::Hello!! Hsuanwei from the WMF Reader Experience team here :) This feature is definitely akin to browser bookmarks! We’re framing this as a first step toward readers participating more on Wikipedia by personalizing their experience, which we hope will eventually lead some of them to become interested in editing. To the tabs point, one tendency we’ve noticed in our user research is that some readers want to be able to “hoard” their information in one easily accessible spot, even though they may not revisit or organize it later, similar to how some people keep 100 tabs open. Do you have any suggestions for how to build on this work to make it more engaging or interactive? [[User:HFan-WMF|HFan-WMF]] ([[User talk:HFan-WMF|talk]]) 23:49, 17 March 2026 (UTC) :Great news, thanks. However, I'm more interested in the Recommended Reading List which can recommend articles one may be interested in based on these saved lists or on specified interests/articles-of-interest. Please get them to desktop too. See [[m:Community Wishlist/W505|Wish505: Show recommended articles on Wikipedia Main page on desktop & mobile web, not just in app]]. {{tq|and give us feedback on-wiki or…}} I'm using the saved reading list during distraction-free book-reading-like Wikipedia reading during commute or similar occasions where I save articles when there's something in it I'd like to look at later or select from articles saved earlier when it's an article I'm interested in reading but eg it's long and not of importance (ie not for editing or any immediate info-need and just for curiosity). Far more users use mobile Web than the app so they should be able to use this feature too if they'd like to. On desktop, it can be an alternative to watching articles. {{tq|Do you have any other ideas for reading lists based on this information}} I wonder whether some could be created dynamically based on some inputs like one's configured interests and a category. Enabling notes for these would be very useful too, [[m:Community Wishlist/W437|similar to watchlisted pages]]. [[User:Prototyperspective|Prototyperspective]] ([[User talk:Prototyperspective|talk]]) 00:09, 11 March 2026 (UTC) ::Excellent note, recommendations for articles to read based on what you’ve already saved is definitely something our team is interested in bringing to the web experience in the future. We’re also thinking about it as another way for editors to potentially organize articles for themselves, and for readers, as an easy entry point to starting to see Wikipedia as a place for participation. Readers are interested in collecting, organizing, and sharing information, so we see this work as a step toward providing that option to them. We’re starting with just “saving” articles for now, but we definitely envision a future where categories and interests can help shape the reading experience, allowing readers to feel a more personal connection to their reading. If reading lists could support recommendations, what kinds of signals would you want them to use: articles you’ve saved, categories, topics you follow, or something else? Also curious what the ideal experience would look like for you, like where you would want to see it and how often it should update? [[User:HFan-WMF|HFan-WMF]] ([[User talk:HFan-WMF|talk]]) 23:51, 17 March 2026 (UTC) :::Thanks for the feedback. I think it would be best if articles saved would be used until the input for recommendations have been configured more explicitly by the user. As for using categories, see [[phab:T181157]] which is about exactly that. It would be great if articles and categories would be used for the recommendations. I don't know if there is a way for topics other than categories except for WikiProjects (their tags on articles' talk pages). As for what I think an ideal experience would be and how often I'd like them to update, see wish [[m:Community Wishlist/W506|W506]]. Basically in a feed that updates when, and only then, I open the feed page and scroll/swipe down. [[User:Prototyperspective|Prototyperspective]] ([[User talk:Prototyperspective|talk]]) 13:29, 18 March 2026 (UTC) == Watchlist == {{tracked|T419918}} Most times I open wikipedia I log in and go to my watchlist to see what changes have been made to the watched pages. I will then look at those changes. If there have been a lot of changes to a page I might look at a few and leave the rest til later. Until recently the watchlist would still show that page with a black dot to show there were changes I hadn't seen. Recently the list has shown a white (unfilled) dot and I haven't found a way to alter it. Is there anything I can do? Is this a universal change, or have I made a change to "preferences" or something inadvertantly? [[User:Spinney Hill|Spinney Hill]] ([[User talk:Spinney Hill|talk]]) 09:27, 11 March 2026 (UTC) :@[[User:Spinney Hill|Spinney Hill]] Hi. I think I understand what you're describing, but I want to verify before I file a bug (or encourage you to file a bug, if you'd like). Please confirm this is an accurate description: In [[phab:F72822789]], I'm showing two screenshots, where I've clicked on "1", and where you would expect that ''only'' "2" is marked as "seen". is that right? Also, do you (or anyone) have a more specific sense of when this behaviour changed (this week, last week, or longer)? With those clues, it should be sufficient to file a useful bug-report. [I searched, and can't see any existing tasks that precisely match.] Cheers, [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 18:33, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::I'm not sure if I understand you -If the list is the history of an article I have looked at 1628 1641 and 1649 and then done something else. What should happen when I go back to that history is the entries for 1653 and 1659 are shown as not looked at but recently they have been shown as looked at so its difficult to see where I have got to in the history. Does that make sense. It happened in the last week I think. [[User:Spinney Hill|Spinney Hill]] ([[User talk:Spinney Hill|talk]]) 18:50, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :::I think I'm probably out of my depth here so I would rather you logged the bug. [[User:Spinney Hill|Spinney Hill]] ([[User talk:Spinney Hill|talk]]) 18:52, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::::In the mean time the watchlst shows the article is shown as looked at instead of not looked at. I first noticed this on [[Leicester Haymarket Theatre|Haymarket Theatre Leicester]] when a large number of edits were made on the same day and I had only looked at ten of them. The sytem showed I had looked at them all [[User:Spinney Hill|Spinney Hill]] ([[User talk:Spinney Hill|talk]]) 20:23, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :{{replyto|Spinney Hill}} They shouldn't be a black dot, they should be green, per the message <blockquote>Pages that have been changed since you last visited them are shown in <b>bold</b> with a <span style="color: #008000; font-weight: bold;">green</span> marker.</blockquote> Black dots are for the diffs that you've visited. :I had the opposite - normally, diffs not looked at are bolded/green-dotted until I refresh the watchlist; today I found that some edits remained bold/green-dotted even though I had visited the diff. One page that this happened with was Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:02, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]] I believe that what we each see by default will vary, because there's a default gadget (but that is "''(unavailable with the improved Watchlist user interface)''") that adjusts those aspects. ::@[[User:Spinney Hill|Spinney Hill]] & Redrose64: I've filed [[phab:T419918]] with what I think is the most broadly-applicable description. I don't recall how exactly it worked before today, but hopefully that task will provide enough clues to unearth whatever is causing the change. Hope that helps. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 22:59, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :::Thanks for the above. I've never seen any green marker --green text yes. [[User:Spinney Hill|Spinney Hill]] ([[User talk:Spinney Hill|talk]]) 09:16, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Was it one of [[Parkinson's law|Parkinson's Laws]] that "Improvement = deterioration)? [[User:Spinney Hill|Spinney Hill]] ([[User talk:Spinney Hill|talk]]) 09:20, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :::::Re: The bug: it has been identified and patched (thanks to matmarex), and will be fixed onwiki next week. (Details in the task on Phabricator) :::::Informal addendum, re: Parkinson's Laws: I'm not sure, but you've reminded me of this [https://hacker-laws.com/ hacker-laws] compilation that I recently found interesting/amusing (and it primarily links here to Wikipedia, which is nice). [Caveat that it's also rife with oversimplifications, of course!]. Closely related to our [[List of eponymous laws]], but topically-focused and expanded. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 18:47, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::Hutber's Law is the closest according to the Wp list. Thanks to everybody [[User:Spinney Hill|Spinney Hill]] ([[User talk:Spinney Hill|talk]]) 11:25, 17 March 2026 (UTC) == strange effect with failed verification template == I fixed a missing bracket in a failed verification template[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cog_(ship)&diff=prev&oldid=1343113032] with the weird result that the article text included <nowiki>[[Category:Articles with failed verification from March 2026}]]</nowiki>. I can't spot anything that I have done wrong (doesn't mean that hasn't happened), but I am guessing something else caused this. [[User:ThoughtIdRetired|ThoughtIdRetired]] <sub> [[User talk:ThoughtIdRetired|TIR]]</sub> 09:52, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :@[[User:ThoughtIdRetired|ThoughtIdRetired]] see the subsequent edit by AnomieBOT, I think that will explain it for you. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 10:36, 12 March 2026 (UTC) :{{replyto|ThoughtIdRetired}} Or even the {{diff|Cog (ship)|prev|1342609415|previous edit}}, which shows the {{para|reason}} parameter being dropped between the two closing braces instead of before them. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:18, 12 March 2026 (UTC) ::Yes, that was my fat fingers on the keyboard, followed by a complete inability to spot the problem. I'll just slink away in embarrassment. [[User:ThoughtIdRetired|ThoughtIdRetired]] <sub> [[User talk:ThoughtIdRetired|TIR]]</sub> 23:07, 12 March 2026 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Prototyperspective|Prototyperspective]] ([[User talk:Prototyperspective|talk]]) 23:52, 16 March 2026 (UTC)}} == Transparent PNGs appear broken on wikipedia == {{tracked|T419927}} Not sure what happened exactly, but all transparent PNG images on wikipedia are now showing up blurry. You can see this particularly with [[Kratos (God of War)]], where both the infobox and lower image are blurry, despite previously being perfectly fine. [[User:Kung Fu Man|Kung Fu Man]] ([[User talk:Kung Fu Man|talk]]) 01:32, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :Seems to be effecting "png" formats as well beyond transparent ones. [[:File:BGC_OVA.png|BGC OVA.png]] for example is blurry even on its preview page. It is also happening with some jpegs. Like this file (heads up, this file has some uhh imagery that is "unfortunate" to put it lightly.) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sanma-no-Meitantei-game-cover-art.jpg here] which is a jpeg which is also compressed on its own article and the preview page, but on clicking on it, it retains its quality. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 14:24, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::This affects, from what I've seen, every jpg file whose width is less than 250 px. [[User talk:Nyxaros|<small><span style="color:OrangeRed; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">ภץאคгöร</span></small>]] 23:24, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :::Ah. Perhaps it's due to the recent change to allow only certain image widths to be served, instead of anything-you-like. See [[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 226#Tech News: 2026-05]], bullet beginning {{tq|Image thumbnails that are requested in non-standard sizes}}. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 23:41, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ===Blurry thumbnails on sports uniform / kit template images=== Hello, I noticed that many uniform template images used in sports infoboxes (such as Template:Baseball uniform and Template:Basketball kit) recently started appearing blurry on article pages, even though the original files on Commons have not changed. This affects files uploaded by multiple users, not just my own, and the issue seems to only occur in the thumbnails. When clicking the file and viewing it on Commons, the image appears sharp. Examples where this occurs: Files I uploaded: [[United States national baseball team]] [[Puerto Rico national baseball team]] [[United States men's national basketball team]] Files uploaded by other users: [[Cuba national baseball team]] [[Japan national baseball team]] There are many more examples all related to this kit templates, and possibly to other types of images and templates in lower resolution. The ones I noticed though are images are used in Template:Baseball uniform, Template:Basketball kit, and similar templates. Since the originals are unchanged and only the thumbnails look blurry, this may be related to thumbnail rendering or a recent MediaWiki change. Is this a known issue, and is there a way to restore the previous thumbnail quality? [[User:ANTbook365|ANTbook365]] ([[User talk:ANTbook365|talk]]) 13:34, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :[[User:ANTbook365|ANTbook365]], see the post directly above. Regards [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic|talk]]) 13:40, 13 March 2026 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Prototyperspective|Prototyperspective]] ([[User talk:Prototyperspective|talk]]) 23:53, 16 March 2026 (UTC)}} === Doubt === Why do the images look very blurry when viewed in [https://i.ibb.co/WN28rkdF/Screenshot.png an article] and as a [https://i.ibb.co/Dgz3sjyv/Screenshot-5.png file page], but they actually look HQ when the file is viewed like this [https://i.ibb.co/jk4C6PSd/Screenshot-4.png] [https://i.ibb.co/gb1rdKwW/Screenshot-6.png]? Is this a new optimisation to improve performance or to tackle copyright restrictions? What is the reason behind images turning [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Thiruda_Thiruda.jpg this blurry]? [[User:Manick22|Manick22]] ([[User talk:Manick22|talk]]) 12:35, 14 March 2026 (UTC) :{{ping|Manick22}} It's a recent bug. See [[#Transparent PNGs appear broken on wikipedia]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 12:39, 14 March 2026 (UTC) ::When will this be fixed? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Inglourious_Basterds_poster.jpg This one] looks very blurry! [[User:Manick22|Manick22]] ([[User talk:Manick22|talk]]) 12:46, 14 March 2026 (UTC) :::After the weekend. —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 13:40, 14 March 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[User:TheDJ|TheDJ]] Oh, okay. Thanks for the reply! [[User:Manick22|Manick22]] ([[User talk:Manick22|talk]]) 13:49, 14 March 2026 (UTC) :{{ping|TheDJ|PrimeHunter}} It seems that not only png, the others file include jpg, jpeg, webp also have the same problem (the images look very blurry) and not only happen in english wikipedia, the chinese wikipedia have the same problems. Thanks. [[User:Stevencocoboy|Stevencocoboy]] ([[User talk:Stevencocoboy|talk]]) 07:28, 16 March 2026 (UTC) Appears to now be fixed, though you may need to purge the page to force the image to get unstuck. --'''[[User:PresN|<span style="color:green">Pres</span>]][[User talk:PresN|<span style="color:blue">N</span>]]''' 21:11, 16 March 2026 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Prototyperspective|Prototyperspective]] ([[User talk:Prototyperspective|talk]]) 23:52, 16 March 2026 (UTC)}} == Trouble linking to sections at [[Rhoticity in English]] == The link {{section link|Rhoticity in English#/ɔː/–/ɔr/ merger}} (meant to be the target of [[Caught-court merger]]) takes me to [[Rhoticity in English#/oʊ/–/ʊər/ merger|/oʊ/–/ʊər/ merger]] instead. ''That'' link takes me to [[Rhoticity in English#Effect of non-rhotic dialects on orthography|Effect of non-rhotic dialects on orthography]], the link to which sends me straight to the references section. If this isn't apparent for you, try using these section links with the legacy Vector skin on a maximized Firefox window on Windows 10 on a 1920x1080p monitor, if all of those are available to you. – [[User:MrPersonHumanGuy|MrPersonHumanGuy]] ([[User talk:MrPersonHumanGuy|talk]]) 20:03, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :{{ping|MrPersonHumanGuy}} The page jumps around for me very quickly and ends in the right place but it can vary by browser and circumstances. It's a common issue when there is collapsible content earlier in the page. The browser first jumps to where the anchor (section heading) is positioned at the time but then collapses or uncollapses something earlier in the page so it should no longer be the same distance from the top. The browser may or may not adjust the position after this. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 20:32, 13 March 2026 (UTC) :Seconding PrimeHunter. I believe this is entirely because of the collapsed tables within the article-sections above those link-targets. I.e. The links ''initially'' scroll to the correct place, but then the tables collapse afterwards [IIUC, this is because of how JavaScript runs after the browser has completed the HTML rendering?] which means the content gets moved. I think we probably need some kind of clearer warnings/explanations within [[MOS:DONTHIDE]] about this? I wrote a related essay years ago at [[mw:User:Quiddity/Collapsing and hiding]] that might be useful if anyone wants to document it formally (or improve/adapt the essay). HTH. [[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] ([[User talk:Quiddity|talk]]) 20:34, 13 March 2026 (UTC) ::If you click in the address bar and press enter then your browser probably jumps to the right place. It jumps to the section again and this time the collapsing is done. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 21:34, 13 March 2026 (UTC) == "Spaghettified" discussions == Is there an easy way (such as a bot) to fix "spaghettified" discussions such as has occured at [[Talk:Canadian Indian residential school system]]? [[User:IOHANNVSVERVS|IOHANNVSVERVS]] ([[User talk:IOHANNVSVERVS|talk]]) 09:37, 14 March 2026 (UTC) :Probably possible, but such things are quite controversial; see [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/IndentBot]] for an example.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1773501914145:WikipediaFTTCLNVillage_pump_(technical)" class="FTTCmt"> — [[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 15:25, 14 March 2026 (UTC)</span> :The default toolbar of the source editor has search and replace on a magnifying glass icon to the right. It can be used to replace a large number of colons with nothing. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 16:52, 14 March 2026 (UTC) :@[[User:Sapphaline|Sapphaline]], can I ask what method you used in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system&diff=prev&oldid=1343522565 your edit fixing the indentation]? And thank you for doing so. [[User:IOHANNVSVERVS|IOHANNVSVERVS]] ([[User talk:IOHANNVSVERVS|talk]]) 22:25, 14 March 2026 (UTC) ::Manual copy-paste and comparing between page's code and rendered output. [[user:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#c20;text-decoration:underline">sapphaline</span>]] ([[user talk:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#236;text-decoration:underline">talk</span>]]) 09:23, 15 March 2026 (UTC) :::I see. Too bad there's not an easier way. Thanks again. [[User:IOHANNVSVERVS|IOHANNVSVERVS]] ([[User talk:IOHANNVSVERVS|talk]]) 11:27, 15 March 2026 (UTC) == Massviews == I am trying to run off statistics on pages views for [[:Category:History of the Paralympic movement in Australia articles]] but the massviews tool but I am getting "An unknown error occurred when querying" Anybody know what is going on? [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 23:19, 14 March 2026 (UTC) :{{ping|Hawkeye7}} It's discussed at [[meta:Talk:Pageviews Analysis#Massviews not returning any results]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 23:57, 14 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thanks for that! I will keep an eye on it. [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 00:24, 15 March 2026 (UTC) == "a series" link font colour for Template:Sidebar person == Recently a parameter was added to {{tl|Sidebar person}} to allow the "a series" text to link to the main category for the person, much as it's linked in sidebars like {{tl|Shinto}} or {{tl|Liberalism sidebar}}. Unfortunately the link remains blue, ignoring the font colour which is applied elsewhere. I've tried various things in the template sandbox, but none worked. Could someone better at programming templates take a look and see if there's a way for the link to use {{para|font_color}} when {{para|series_category|yes}} is set? – [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 00:01, 15 March 2026 (UTC) :{{ping|Scyrme}} Link colors can only be changed inside a piped link. [[Special:ExpandTemplates]] shows {{tl|Shinto}} produces <code><nowiki>[[:Category:Shinto| <span style="color:White;">a series</span>]]</nowiki></code> <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PrimeHunter|contribs]]) 01:26, 15 March 2026 (UTC)</small> ::Redoing ping to {{ping|Scyrme}} for {{ping|PrimeHunter}}. [[User:Graham87|Graham87]] ([[User talk:Graham87|talk]]) 05:54, 15 March 2026 (UTC) ::Or by changing the color with [[WP:TemplateStyles]]. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 06:12, 15 March 2026 (UTC) :::OK, that's possible but too much work. If you want to use a template then just use {{tl|Colored link}} which uses the piped link method. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 13:07, 15 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Thanks for the answers, though it turned out my mistake was using {{tl|colored link}} around a link including the brackets rather than replacing the brackets with the template. Seems to work now. – [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 17:07, 15 March 2026 (UTC) == Search function malfunction on mobile v3 == Space bar resetting the search term was recently fixed at [[phab:T418172]]. But now there is a new problem. Now the search suggestions are always one step behind the typed term. For example when searching for Trapdoor. Typing '''T''', nothing shows up. At '''Trap''' it shows '''Tra'''nsnistria while omitting the '''p''' letter. Confirmed affected sites: en.m.wikipedia.org, en.m.wiktionary.org Phone model: OnePlus 3, operating system: Android 9 / OxygenOS 9.0.6, browser: Firefox 148.0.1 [[User:Aloysius Jr|Aloysius Jr]] ([[User talk:Aloysius Jr|talk]]) 23:23, 15 March 2026 (UTC) == WikiBlame broken? == [https://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php WikiBlame] seems to be broken. I almost always get "Your search term was not found at all. Check the settings and try again." I tried different search terms, different pages, different wikis, searching for wikitext or full text. Always the same result. It's been like this for a couple of days now, maybe a week. (Half an hour ago, it seemed to be working for a few minutes, but now it's broken again.) I also opened a [https://github.com/FlominatorTM/wikiblame/issues/61 GitHub issue]. — [[User:Chrisahn|Chrisahn]] ([[User talk:Chrisahn|talk]]) 23:39, 15 March 2026 (UTC) :An example article and search text that failed would be useful. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 06:48, 16 March 2026 (UTC) ::I just visited [[John Draper]] and clicked "Find addition/removal" in history, then entered {{tq|software engineer}} in 'Search for' and pressed Enter. In under a minute it found the addition on 02 March 2025. That is, it works for me. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 06:53, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :::Thanks for your response! There's been an overlap, @[[User:Flominator|Flominator]] fixed the issue about an hour before you tested it. Thanks! — [[User:Chrisahn|Chrisahn]] ([[User talk:Chrisahn|talk]]) 09:02, 16 March 2026 (UTC) {{Done}} Fixed, see GitHub issue. — [[User:Chrisahn|Chrisahn]] ([[User talk:Chrisahn|talk]]) 09:03, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :Thanks for reporting that and getting it fixed. Apparently the fix was to set the newly required user agent. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 10:08, 16 March 2026 (UTC) ::I'm surprised anybody is still using WikiBlame. I recommend installing the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Who_Wrote_That%3F Who Wrote That?] extension instead, it's so much better and saves a lot of time. Am I right, [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]]? [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 20:23, 16 March 2026 (UTC). :::WWT does not work outside of mainspace last I checked. Wikiblame, and [[User:Daniel Quinlan/Scripts/Blame]], do not have this limitation. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 21:15, 16 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I've been using [[:w:de:Benutzer:Schnark/js/wikiblame]] which appears to be similar to that Blame script.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1773700075475:WikipediaFTTCLNVillage_pump_(technical)" class="FTTCmt"> — [[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 22:27, 16 March 2026 (UTC)</span> :::{{ping|Bishonen}} My life is sufficiently exciting without trying new things! But maybe later I'll have a look. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 00:08, 17 March 2026 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Izno}}, you're right, but I suppose you and I live different lives; I can't remember ever wanting to know when something was added ''except'' in mainspace. A problem for others, though, may be that Who Wrote That? only works (or is only optimized for, whatever) Chrome and Firefox. {{ping|Johnuniq}}, once you've tried WWT, you'll find digging through WikiBlame almost intolerably unexciting. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 10:44, 17 March 2026 (UTC). == Break markup == Hey folks. For a line break in an article -- in the infobox, or in the body of the article -- is it better to use an HTML break tag (i.e. <code><nowiki><br></nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki><br /></nowiki></code>) or a break template (i.e. {{tl|break}}), and why? Or does it not make any difference? <span style="font-family: cursive;">— [[User:Mudwater|Mudwater]]<small><sup> ([[User talk:Mudwater|Talk]])</sup></small></span> 17:14, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :Depends. [[WP:NOBR]] is relevant if what you're making is a list. Otherwise, HTML br is fine generally. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 17:41, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :<code><nowiki><br></nowiki></code> is preferable. <code><nowiki><br /></nowiki></code> is unnecessary [[XHTML]] syntax, and <code><nowiki>{{break}}</nowiki></code> is intended only for cases where you can't use the tag directly. [[user:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#c20;text-decoration:underline">sapphaline</span>]] ([[user talk:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#236;text-decoration:underline">talk</span>]]) 17:57, 16 March 2026 (UTC) ::Note that this markup shouldn't be used to create unbulleted lists; use [[Template:HTML lists|one of the list templates]]. [[user:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#c20;text-decoration:underline">sapphaline</span>]] ([[user talk:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#236;text-decoration:underline">talk</span>]]) 18:01, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :::{{re|sapphaline}} <code><nowiki><br></nowiki></code> is fine with me, but why do you say that it's preferable to the template? <span style="font-family: cursive;">— [[User:Mudwater|Mudwater]]<small><sup> ([[User talk:Mudwater|Talk]])</sup></small></span> 18:14, 16 March 2026 (UTC) : or<br />{{code|<br />}} is preferable. {{code|<br>}} generates syntax highlighting errors in the editor. {{kitty}}. In many cases, it is better to use a list template, such as {{TLX|UBL}} or {{TLX|hlist}} — [[User:GhostInTheMachine|GhostInTheMachine]] <sup>[[User talk:GhostInTheMachine|talk to me]]</sup> 20:51, 16 March 2026 (UTC) ::Which editor? Do you mean the old syntax highlighting gadget? [[User:JWBTH|Jack who built the house]] ([[User:JWBTH|talk]]) 20:53, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :::The editor that I use seems to be called the "2010 wikitext editor". It does get quite upset by plain {{code|<br>}} tags — [[User:GhostInTheMachine|GhostInTheMachine]] <sup>[[User talk:GhostInTheMachine|talk to me]]</sup> 21:05, 16 March 2026 (UTC) ::::You are likely using Dot's syntax highlighter. It is an issue in this way. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 21:13, 16 March 2026 (UTC) ::::And if not Dot, then potentially [[WP:WIKED]]. Either way, my opinion is that neither of these are necessary today, the tools one might use with them are available in what MediaWiki supports now. You should consider trying those and ditching whatever you do have installed. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 21:19, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :::::No explicitly loaded external stuff, just the standard "2010 wikitext editor" plus the alternative Syntax highlighter via enabling the gadget in Preferences. i.e. [[mw:User:Remember the dot/Syntax highlighter|"Dot's"]]. Turning off the gadget reverts to the "standrd" highlighter, which does not care about {{Code|<br>}} vs. {{code|<br />}}, but (after using the gadget version for a while) now looks rather horrible {{):}} {{tag|digression|c}} — [[User:GhostInTheMachine|GhostInTheMachine]] <sup>[[User talk:GhostInTheMachine|talk to me]]</sup> 09:14, 17 March 2026 (UTC) :{{replyto|Mudwater}} To return to the original question: as far as our readers are concerned it makes not one scrap of difference. The {{tag|br|o}} tag was introduced in HTML 2.0 way back in 1995, and is valid in all subsequent versions of HTML, but not XHTML (unless followed directly by the closing {{tag|br|c}} tag). The {{tag|br|s}} tag first appeared in XHTML 1 (2000) and is also valid in HTML 5 (2014) as an optional variant of {{tag|br|o}}. The {{tlx|break}} template emits one or more {{tag|br|s}} tags, and browsers simply do not care (or know) whether these tags were typed directly or emitted by a template, function, macro or other typing aid. The MediaWiki software serves HTML 5, and normalises {{tag|br|s}} tags (however produced) to the {{tag|br|o}} form. :The ''missing'' question - that others are attempting to answer - is this: where are you using these tags? Is it to emit a cosmetic newline, or to make a list? If the former, that's OK; but if the latter, [[MOS:NOBR]] applies everywhere - in infoboxes, prose and talk page discussions. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:29, 16 March 2026 (UTC) ::Yes, [[User:Redrose64|Redrose64]], and everyone else, I should have stated this clearly before now. I would not use breaks to make a list, I would use a template such as {{tl|plainlist}}, or just use asterisks or pound signs to create bulleted or numbered lists, respectively, with regular Wikipedia markup. {{smiley}} <span style="font-family: cursive;">— [[User:Mudwater|Mudwater]]<small><sup> ([[User talk:Mudwater|Talk]])</sup></small></span> 23:09, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :::Here's a bit more background: I saw [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Garcia_Live_Volume_22&diff=1343809088&oldid=1343647207 this] edit, and started to wonder if there's a reason to prefer either the HTML or the break template. The readers can't see the difference, and I haven't heard any technical reasons either way, so perhaps it's just a matter of editorial preference. But if so, some editors might be able to explain why they have a preference. I'd be interested in hearing any. Otherwise I won't worry about it too much. <span style="font-family: cursive;">— [[User:Mudwater|Mudwater]]<small><sup> ([[User talk:Mudwater|Talk]])</sup></small></span> 23:15, 16 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This is a cosmetic newline between two parts of an address. I would say that {{tag|br|s}} is fine to use in this instance. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 23:34, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :::::If people find bare HTML upsetting, then using the {{TLX|break}} template (or the {{TLX|br}} alias) is fine too. I really do not see any need for an edit that switches between tags and templates (or the other way) — [[User:GhostInTheMachine|GhostInTheMachine]] <sup>[[User talk:GhostInTheMachine|talk to me]]</sup> 11:52, 17 March 2026 (UTC) == Tech News: 2026-12 == <section begin="technews-2026-W12"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}]] beta feature, also known as [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror 6]], has been used for wikitext syntax highlighting since November 2024. It will be promoted out of beta by May 2026 in order to bring improvements and new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror#Features|features]] to all editors who use the standard syntax highlighter. If you have any questions or concerns about promoting the feature out of beta, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|please share]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259059] * Some changes to local user groups are performed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and logged there only. Now, interwiki rights changes will be logged both on Meta-Wiki and the wiki of the target user to make it easier to access a full record of user's rights changes on a local wiki. Past log entries for such changes will be backfilled in the coming weeks. 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[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|Feedback or concerns are welcome]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419332] * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] JavaScript modules will soon be upgraded to CodeMirror 6. Leading up to the upgrade, loading the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror</code> or <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.lib</code> modules from gadgets and user scripts was deprecated in July 2025. The use of the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.switch</code> hook was also deprecated in March 2025. Contributors can now make their scripts or gadgets compatible with CodeMirror 6. See the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror#Gadgets and user scripts|migration guide]] for more information. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373720] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team is expanding coverage of REST API module definitions to include [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/API:REST API/Extensions|extension APIs]]. REST API modules are groups of related endpoints that can be independently managed and versioned. Modules now exist for [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414470 GrowthExperiments] and [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419053 Wikifunctions] APIs. As we migrate extension APIs to this structure, documentation will move out of the main MediaWiki OpenAPI spec and REST Sandbox view, and will instead be accessible via module-specific options in the dropdown on the [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RestSandbox REST Sandbox] (i.e., [[{{#Special:RestSandbox}}]], available on all wiki projects). * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto|Scribunto]] extension provides different pieces of information about the wiki where the module is being used via the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual|mw.site]] library. Starting last week, the library also provides a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#mw.site.wikiId|way]] of accessing the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Wiki ID|wiki ID]] that can be used to facilitate cross-wiki module maintenance. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146616] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.20|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Coolest Tool Award|2026 Coolest Tool Award]] celebrating outstanding community tools, is now open for nominations! Nominate your favorite tool using the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/435684?lang=en nomination survey] form by 23 March 2026. For more information on privacy and data handling, please see the [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Coolest_Tool_Award_2026_Survey_Privacy_Statement|survey privacy statement]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]] • [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]] • [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translate]] • [[m:Tech|Get help]] • [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]] • [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W12"/> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 19:33, 16 March 2026 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:STei (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30260505 --> ==Announce: wikiurl == https://github.com/greencardamom/Wikiurl :wikiurl is a high-performance, multi-engine command-line tool for extracting URLs from Wikimedia projects. It allows you to search on specific domains across various wikis and output the results in multiple formats (TSV, JSONL, raw SQL, or article title list). At maximum, you could download all URLS across all 800+ wikis. Notable for being written in [[Nim (programming language)|Nim]], it compiles to Linux, Mac or Windows binaries, and uses GitHub to do the compilation step, so users have safety downloading the executable. Being Nim it compiles to highly optimized C code which is then compiled to binary by GCC. It provides 4 options how to retrieve the URLs: API, SQL, Dump Download and Dump Streaming - each engine has pros and cons depending on nature of request. -- [[User:GreenC|<span style="color: #006A4E;">'''Green'''</span>]][[User talk:GreenC|<span style="color: #093;">'''C'''</span>]] 21:11, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :Very interesting, and well documented at github. Thanks! [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 00:41, 18 March 2026 (UTC) == VisualEditor not properly previewing pages when adding a link in the Wikipedia: namespace == {{tracked|T420288}} [[File:VE glitch March 2026 - VPT.png|thumb|Searching for [[Wikipedia:VPT]] displays...some other things.]] [[File:VE glitch March 2026 - TfD.png|thumb|There isn't a mainspace page similarly named to [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion]].]] Something odd is going on when searching for pages in the [[Wikipedia:Project namespace]] using [[Wikipedia:VisualEditor|VisualEditor]]. The word <code>Wikipedia</code> is showing up with a lowercase <code>w</code> and the search results are displaying results for the project page's name if it was in mainspace, as seen to the right. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: DarkGreen">md</span>]][[User talk:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Indigo">m.b</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Maroon">la</span>]]</span> 21:56, 16 March 2026 (UTC) : It looks like the search field wants to interpreted the input as [[Help:Interwiki linking|an interproject link]] to Wikipedia, despite being on Wikipedia already. For example, [[commons:Special:Permalink/1182336812|on Wikimedia Commons]], the wikitext to produce a link to this Village pump page is <code><nowiki>[[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)]]</nowiki></code> (note the repetition of the word "Wikipedia"). —[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 22:16, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :Filed as [[phab:T420288]]. Thanks both for the details. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 23:45, 16 March 2026 (UTC) :As a workaround you can use the namespace aliases WP or Project instead of Wikipedia. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 00:25, 17 March 2026 (UTC) :This has been fixed and deployed. [[User:ESanders (WMF)|ESanders (WMF)]] ([[User talk:ESanders (WMF)|talk]]) 14:40, 17 March 2026 (UTC) ::{{tyvm}} <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: DarkGreen">md</span>]][[User talk:Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Indigo">m.b</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mdm.Bla|<span style="color: Maroon">la</span>]]</span> 14:55, 17 March 2026 (UTC) {{-}} == Quarry SQL issue == I'm trying to run a Quarry search for pjge titles that mix [[Devanagari]] with other scripts, but I can't figure out why it doesn't match anything. In particular, it should have found the deletion log entry for [[भोजपुरी language]]. [https://quarry.wmcloud.org/query/103272 Replacing with a different regex] seems to work, but prepending "\b" fails. {{collapse top|title=SQL Query}} <syntaxhighlight lang="SQL"> SET @pat1='\P{L}*\p{Devanagari}.*[^\p{Devanagari}\P{L}].*'; SET @pat2='\P{L}*[^\p{Devanagari}\P{L}].*\p{Devanagari}.*'; WITH ns(ns_n, ns_s) AS (VALUES (-2, 'Media:'), (-1, 'Special:'), (0, ''), (1, 'Talk:'), (2, 'User:'), (3, 'User talk:'), (4, 'Wikipedia:'), (5, 'Wikipedia talk:'), (6, ':File:'), (7, 'File talk:'), (8, 'MediaWiki:'), (9, 'MediaWiki talk:'), (10, 'Template:'), (11, 'Template talk:'), (12, 'Help:'), (13, 'Help talk:'), (14, ':Category:'), (15, 'Category talk:'), (100, 'Portal:'), (101, 'Portal talk:'), (118, 'Draft:'), (119, 'Draft talk:'), (126, 'MOS:'), (127, 'MOS talk:'), (710, 'TimedText:'), (711, 'TimedText talk:'), (828, 'Module:'), (829, 'Module talk:')) SELECT CONCAT('[[', COALESCE(ns_s, CONCAT('{{ns:', page_namespace, '}}:')), REPLACE(page_title, '_', ' '), ']]') AS title, EXISTS (SELECT 1 FROM page p2 WHERE p2.page_namespace = sq.page_namespace AND p2.page_title = sq.page_title) AS existing, COUNT(log_namespace) AS `times deleted`, GROUP_CONCAT(log_timestamp SEPARATOR ' // ') AS `deletion timestamps`, GROUP_CONCAT(comment_text SEPARATOR ' // ') AS `deletion comments`, (SELECT GROUP_CONCAT(comment_text SEPARATOR ' // ') FROM logging_logindex JOIN comment_logging ON comment_id = log_comment_id WHERE log_namespace = page_namespace AND log_title = page_title AND log_type = 'protect' AND log_action = 'protect' AND log_params LIKE '%create=%') AS `salt comments` FROM (SELECT page_namespace, page_title FROM page WHERE (REPLACE(page_title, '_', ' ') RLIKE @pat1 OR REPLACE(page_title, '_', ' ') RLIKE @pat2) AND page_namespace NOT IN (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) UNION DISTINCT SELECT ar_namespace, ar_title FROM archive WHERE (REPLACE(ar_title, '_', ' ') RLIKE @pat1 OR REPLACE(ar_title, '_', ' ') RLIKE @pat2) AND ar_namespace NOT IN (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)) sq LEFT JOIN logging_logindex ON log_namespace = page_namespace AND log_title = page_title AND log_action = 'delete' AND log_type = 'delete' LEFT JOIN comment_logging ON comment_id = log_comment_id LEFT JOIN ns ON ns_n = page_namespace GROUP BY page_namespace, page_title ORDER BY `existing` DESC, page_namespace ASC, page_title ASC; </syntaxhighlight> {{collapse bottom}} –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 05:12, 17 March 2026 (UTC) :Your backslashes aren't escaped. —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] 05:24, 17 March 2026 (UTC) ::Fixing this caused a lengthy delay and a replication lag, and still returned no results. Do I need to escape any characters other than the backslash? –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 06:31, 17 March 2026 (UTC) :::No. The reason you're not getting results is that you forked from one of the versions of this query where the pattern I was matching didn't have to worry about non-Latin characters - which is admittedly most of them - so you'll have to explicitly convert page_title and ar_title to utf8. [[quarry:query/84985]] was the first I found that does that, though most of the rest of it is outdated. And of course it was slow; not only does it have to do full table scans of both page and archive, both your regexes are catastrophically slow - the ending .* will be optimized away, but the initial \P{L}* likely won't be, and removing both won't change what they match. —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] 07:05, 17 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Also, if you just want mainspace matches, or mainspace and category and template or whatever, say so - page_namespace = 0 or page_namespace IN (0, 10, 14) will be (partially) indexed, page_namespace NOT IN (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) tends not to be; and while a single blacklist regex has to match a candidate by itself, which is why they're written in pairs like (Devanagari character eventually followed by non-Devanagari letter) or (non-Devanagari letter eventually followed by Devanagari character), these queries don't: you're way better off with matching both "Devanagari character" and "non-Devanagari letter". <syntaxhighlight lang=sql inline>SELECT COUNT(*) FROM page WHERE page_namespace=0 AND CONVERT(page_title USING utf8) RLIKE '\\p{Devanagari}' AND CONVERT(page_title USING utf8) RLIKE '[^\\p{Devanagari}\\P{L}]';</syntaxhighlight> completed in 20 seconds, and the version for archive in 39. —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] 07:42, 17 March 2026 (UTC) :::::This returned lots of false positives with {{unichar|02BC}}, which is used in the [[Boro language (India)|Boro]] and [[Dogri language]]s, so I had to exclude that as well. The completed query for article and draft space can be found at [[quarry:query/103274]]. –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 08:07, 17 March 2026 (UTC) == Future of editing on the Wikipedia mobile apps – Invitation to discuss == The Mobile Apps team is exploring what should happen when an app user taps "Edit" on an article, and input from your community would be valuable. The context is summarized below, and full information can be found on the [[mw:Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Future_of_Editing_on_the_Mobile_Apps|Future of Editing on the Mobile Apps]] page. The plan is to make sure app users edit in the mobile web editor from within the app, where we have better editing tools. '''Problem definition''' The Wikipedia mobile apps were originally built as reading tools. Reading features and native app capabilities are the primary motivation for users to download them, and remain the driving factor for high reader retention. In the last several years native editing experiences were added to the Wikipedia apps to meet user requests. A challenge has been the absence of VisualEditor in the apps, which is the result of technical constraints; it would take several years to build a functional native WSYWIG editor. The lack of VisualEditor has meant anyone who opens an article to edit is immediately confronted with raw wikitext, which resembles code and leads many newcomers to assume editing requires technical knowledge. Research confirms that despite investments in improvements to the native editor, the lack of VisualEditor creates a barrier to editing articles in the absence of structured tasks like Suggested Edits. Additionally, community spaces like the Teahouse and Help Desk are difficult to access from within the apps due to it being outside of the main namespace. '''Context: the reader strategy''' The Wikimedia Foundation is [[diffblog:2026/03/10/engaging-and-reengaging-wikipedia-readers/|placing more emphasis]] on improving reading experiences alongside editing, with the goal of supporting readership, attracting new users and retaining them. We can’t rely on readers finding us through search engines the way we have been used to, and have to find new ways to attract readers who keep coming back to the wikis – some of whom might become editors in the future. As part of this direction, the apps are being developed primarily as a strong reading experience for active readers, with more emphasis on features such as personalized discovery using local device data, daily reader engagement opportunities, and deeper connections to content. At the same time, improvements to editing tools are increasingly being made on the web. This includes features such as Edit Check in the VisualEditor, Suggested Edits, and the Newcomer homepage, which aim to make editing more accessible and supportive for contributors. This context matters for editor recruitment. The apps attract new readers every year, do a good job at retaining them, and there are plans to increase app visibility. Many editors make their first contributions by correcting small errors while casually reading — if those moments of impulse happen inside the app and a newcomer encounters wikitext without the option of VisualEditor, it may discourage them before they establish a foothold. The [[mw:Readers|Reader]] and Contributor teams at the Wikimedia Foundation are working together on this, and introducing editing is particularly important on the apps, where a large share of users visit daily, and daily users are most likely to try editing – for example, 3% of readers became new editors with unreverted edits after they learned they could edit through the new app [[mw:Wikimedia_Apps/Team/iOS/Activity_Tab|Activity Tab feature]]. '''What's being considered''' The team is exploring ways for users to continue editing in mobile web from within the app, where VisualEditor and other more fully-featured tools are available. There are open questions about how to do this effectively. '''Questions the team would especially like input on''' * What are the most critical editing workflows or community spaces that need to be accessible (even via redirect) from within the app? * If the mobile web editor was accessible from the app, should the Mobile Apps eliminate the native source editor and suggested edits altogether? * For editors who have tried editing on the app: at what point did the experience fall short, and would access to VisualEditor / mobile web have changed that? * Are there aspects of the handoff from app to mobile web editor that would be most important to get right? * What should that transition feel like? A prompt, a redirect, a wrapped in web experience? What should the tone of the redirect take if we are sending people out of the app to provide the least jarring experience? * For editors who guide newcomers: how often does the app come up as a first editing environment, and what problems follow from that? The full discussion page is at [[mw:Talk:Wikimedia Apps/Team/Future of Editing on the Mobile Apps]]. Feedback on this post is also welcome. --[[User:ARamadan-WMF|ARamadan-WMF]] ([[User talk:ARamadan-WMF|talk]]) 12:37, 17 March 2026 (UTC) ==No "Show IP" button in Cologne Blue and Modern== See e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASandbox&date-range-to=2026-03-17&tagfilter=&action=history&useskin=cologneblue or https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASandbox&date-range-to=2026-03-17&tagfilter=&action=history&useskin=modern (if you have "Temporary account IP viewer" right). Is there any way I can debug this? [[user:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#c20;text-decoration:underline">sapphaline</span>]] ([[user talk:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#236;text-decoration:underline">talk</span>]]) 10:53, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :These are community supported skins (aka, not supported), so some functionality is expected to be missing —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 11:02, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::I want to fix this only for my account. [[user:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#c20;text-decoration:underline">sapphaline</span>]] ([[user talk:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#236;text-decoration:underline">talk</span>]]) 11:03, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::[[User:PrimeHunter/Vector 2022 reload.js]] may be of interest. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 13:40, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :Note that required modules do load (as can be seen from browser's debugger), but they seem to error out, though I can't confirm this because there's nothing in the console. [[user:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#c20;text-decoration:underline">sapphaline</span>]] ([[user talk:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#236;text-decoration:underline">talk</span>]]) 11:03, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::Both Cologne Blue and Modern are legacy skins (they were removed from {{myprefs|Appearance}} in mid 2021), and are no longer maintained. New features are not necessarily going to work with them. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 18:59, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :: The reason it's not loading is that it is not finding the <code>#bodyContent</code> ID it requires to run. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 19:06, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::: The following incredibly dumb and brittle line of JS ''appears'' to work in both Cologne Blue and modern: <syntaxhighlight lang="js">mw.loader.moduleRegistry["ext.checkUser.tempAccounts"].packageExports["ipReveal.js"].addIpRevealButtons($("#content"))</syntaxhighlight>. Probably someone who knows more than me about how ResourceLoader works could find a less stupid way of writing that. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 19:13, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This needs to be executed after "ipReveal.js" was loaded, though. [[user:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#c20;text-decoration:underline">sapphaline</span>]] ([[user talk:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#236;text-decoration:underline">talk</span>]]) 19:36, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::::A way to do this without timeouts is by changing "mw-content-text" ID to "bodyContent": <syntaxhighlight lang=js>if (mw.config.get("skin") == "modern" || mw.config.get("skin") == "cologneblue") { var mw_content_text = document.getElementById("mw-content-text"); mw_content_text.setAttribute("id", "bodyContent"); }</syntaxhighlight> [[user:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#c20;text-decoration:underline">sapphaline</span>]] ([[user talk:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#236;text-decoration:underline">talk</span>]]) 19:54, 18 March 2026 (UTC) == Which editor? == We often have to ask people which editor they are using, which can be confusing for them and long-winded for us to explain. I have made [[Wikipedia:Which editor?]] to which we can refer such people. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 12:03, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :@[[User:Pigsonthewing|Pigsonthewing]] You might want to merge this into [[Wikipedia:Glossary/User interface]]. See also [[mw:Editor]] and [[Help:Edit toolbar]]. <span class="nowrap">--[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User talk:Ahecht|<b style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:middle;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</b>]])</span> 14:31, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::Thank you; I don't. None of those pages are suitable for the purpose, especially when addressing novice editors. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 14:54, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :There's [[mw:Editor]] already. [[User:Nardog|Nardog]] ([[User talk:Nardog|talk]]) 14:49, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::^ [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 15:55, 18 March 2026 (UTC) == Wildcat signatures == Is it must me or is there a more general problem with the way that "the system" is applying signatures? If I edit an existing section at a talk page, then use the signature icon on the top of the editing box: {{blockquote|{{big|'''{{code|B}}''' '''''{{code|I}}''''' '''{{code|🔗}}'''}} etc}} not only do I get my sig attached to the end of my post, but ''another'' sig is attached to the section title. What gives? [[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 12:53, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :Not happening for me. That is mostly an "insert text here" button - are you in the "section header" input box when using it? Also it looks like you are trying to do an infinite loop on the second line of [[User:JMF/common.js]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:54, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::If it happens when you edit an existing section then I guess you see the heading on the first line and not in a box. Does it happen systematically like in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Woughton&diff=prev&oldid=1344121547] with the signature at the end of the heading? Does it happen in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Woughton&action=edit§ion=2&safemode=1 safemode]? [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 14:04, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::No, not in the section header box. Just editing routinely [as in this case, using the explicit 'edit' function rather than ' reply'. I get a sig at the end of what I have written (as expected) and another gets tagged on to end of the section title. As it has just now, I will leave it for a moment as evidence and then correct it before responding to rest of your questions. --[[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 17:17, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::Doesn't happen in safemode! (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&action=edit§ion=22&safemode=1). I don't know for how long it has been going on. :::Anyway, as it does not appear to be a general problem, best close the discussion in this forum and I would appreciate any suggestions at [[user talk:JMF#Wildcat signatures]]. Thank you. --[[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 17:29, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::::If it doesn't happen in safemode, turn off all your userscripts and try again. See [[:mw:Help:Locating broken scripts]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:28, 19 March 2026 (UTC) == PKRConvert == Hi all. I propose defuncting this template, {{tl|PKRConvert}}, and instead relying on footnotes for relying on currency exchange using a live external link for that exact timeline. The reason is inflation and currency unstability. The template may not reflect the recent changes, and it is nearly impossible to update it daily or on monthly basis. Please see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/1340210229#cite_note-52 this footnote] as a reference, and a recent concern raised over [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2026_Pakistan_Super_League#USD_to_PKR here]. I am available to take any queries and suggstions. Thank you! [[User talk:M.Billoo2000#top|'''M.''']] [[User:M.Billoo2000|Bill'''oo''']] 13:00, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :@[[User:M.Billoo2000|M.Billoo2000]] This should probably be discussed at [[Template talk:PKRConvert]] or [[WP:TfD]]. Is Pakistan significantly different from the 50 other countries [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=500&fulltext=1&ns10=1&profile=advanced&search=intitle%3A%22Inflation%22+intitle%3A%22dataset%22&title=Special%3ASearch supported by Template:Inflation]? <span class="nowrap">--[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User talk:Ahecht|<b style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:middle;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</b>]])</span> 14:23, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::I do not understand how this template works, [[Template:Inflation/PK/dataset]], and that it is not edited in about four years. The inflation history can be [https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/data/currencies/usd-pairs/USDPKR-exchange-rate seen here] and any other similar website. I intentionally came on the village pump instead of TfD or Template talk, only because I want to specifically address this one currency, PKR only, to a wider PoV, and not any other currency. Also, that the template has been stale for years, so I felt useless in leaving a message there. I have seen multiple editors trying to use PKRConvert in Pakistan-related pages, which eventually generates a false value due to not reflecting that particular timeline. And that is why I have linked two of my PoVs above, and I can present more. Thank you. [[User talk:M.Billoo2000#top|'''M.''']] [[User:M.Billoo2000|Bill'''oo''']] 14:40, 18 March 2026 (UTC) == Fix coordinates of [[Kirtland Community College]] == I've been trying for ten minutes to fix the coordinates at [[Kirtland Community College]]. The campus was moved in 2016, but the dot still shows the old location, and even updating the coordinates is still showing the old location. What am I doing wrong? The current coordinates are 44.60180007265286, -84.70585794585037 <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 14:53, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :Five decimal points gives a precision of around 1 metre. 14 is sub-atomic. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 14:59, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::{{re|Pigsonthewing}} I tried shortening it to four decimal points and it ''still'' shows the old location. What am I doing wrong? <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 15:08, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::Click "Wikidata item" under "Tools" and update the coordinates at Wikidata. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 15:15, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I don't see either of those options anywhere. <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 15:19, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::::"Tools" is in the interface. In the default skin Vector 2022 it's a drop-down menu at the top right. In other skins it's a menu in the left pane but "Wikidata item" is a little further down under "In other projects". [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 15:25, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::I have no clue what you're talking about. I'm using the default skin and I don't see anything called "Tools" anywhere on the page. Can you show me a screenshot? <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 15:29, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::[[:File:Commons "Tools" menu as of July 2024.png]]. "Tools" may also be in a sidebar to the right with a "hide" link next to it which would place it like the screenshot. In many browsers you can search a viewed page for a string with {{keypress|Ctrl|f}}. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 16:18, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::::That area on the page is completely blank. I don't even see a "hide" anywhere. What page specifically do I need to be on to see it and therefore change it? Because it sure as shit isn't Kirtland's article, where the upper right is completely blank. <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 16:23, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::::Just go to [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6416228 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6416228]. Scroll down to "coordinate location". [[User:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#066293;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>]] [[User talk:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#738276;">''(talk)''</span>]] 16:33, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::How did you get to that from the article, though? <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 16:35, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::::::I'm using Vector Legacy. The associated Wikidata link is in the left-side menu at the very bottom. I don't know where it is shown in the default skin, sorry. [[User:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#066293;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>]] [[User talk:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#738276;">''(talk)''</span>]] 16:47, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::::::I take that back: I just opened the article in an incognito window so I could see it in the default skin. Along the top of the center pane is "Read - Edit - View history - Tools". The Tools dropdown menu shows "Wikidata item" at the bottom of the list. [[User:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#066293;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>]] [[User talk:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#738276;">''(talk)''</span>]] 16:50, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::::::The Tools menu is on every wiki page. Do you really have Vector 2022 at [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering]]? Do you see "Tools" near the top right [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirtland_Community_College?useskin=vector-2022&safemode=1 here] or if you log out? Try to [[WP:BYPASS|bypass your cache]] with {{keypress|Ctrl|F5}} if you have a Windows browser, or what do you use? If none of this works then your browser may have a serious problem, or are you using some app instead of a browser. "What links here" is also in the Tools menu. Do you know that feature? [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 16:51, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::::Ah, it's on the side for me and not the bottom. I see "what links here". <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 17:03, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::::::::Hammer's been around for far longer than I have, so like me probably still uses a pre-Vector skin (Cologne Blue, Modern or MonoBook): for each of these, it's in the left sidebar, below the "{{int:wikibase-otherprojects}}" subheading, titled "{{int:wikibase-dataitem}}". If that is absent on an article, it means that there is no page at Wikidata. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:30, 18 March 2026 (UTC) ::[https://xkcd.com/2170/ Obligatory xkcd] [[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 19:12, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :::[https://xkcd.com/2168/ See your 2170 and raise you 2168]. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:39, 18 March 2026 (UTC) == Webfonts don't load == Hey, I noticed for a while that some imported webfonts on [[User:Esperfulmo/common.css|my CSS page]] from db.onlinewebfonts.com can't load anymore as they used to. Is Wikimedia blocking it or does the website block Wikimedia now? <small>--[[User:Esperfulmo|Esperfulmo]] ([[User talk:Esperfulmo|talk]]) 21:30, 18 March 2026 (UTC)</small> : We recently blocked loading of external resources from domains that aren't specifically whitelisted in response to a security incident. See [[phab:T419265]]. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 21:34, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :https://www.base64encode.org/ + https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26867893/converting-and-rendering-web-fonts-to-base64-keep-original-look [[user:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#c20;text-decoration:underline">sapphaline</span>]] ([[user talk:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#236;text-decoration:underline">talk</span>]]) 21:46, 18 March 2026 (UTC) :: Thanks both for taking the time and attention to answer me. How can we ask to allow the aforementioned website to be able to load some basic fonts for me and anyone? This website has too many essential fonts. Using my phone I can't see them and I can't install fonts on it. <small>--[[User:Esperfulmo|Esperfulmo]] ([[User talk:Esperfulmo|talk]]) 01:40, 19 March 2026 (UTC)</small> :: Converting to base64 isn't a solution for fonts which have too many characters and for dozens of fonts to load. It's impractical unless we want to just load a font which has a character or two. <small>--[[User:Esperfulmo|Esperfulmo]] ([[User talk:Esperfulmo|talk]]) 01:43, 19 March 2026 (UTC)</small> :::You may want to remove the <code>Content-Security-Policy</code> HTTP header/modify it so that it includes your domain, then. There are multiple browser extensions to do so, e.g. "simple-modify-headers" ([https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-modify-header/ Firefox], [https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/simple-modify-headers/gjgiipmpldkpbdfjkgofildhapegmmic Chrome]). [[user:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#c20;text-decoration:underline">sapphaline</span>]] ([[user talk:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#236;text-decoration:underline">talk</span>]]) 08:45, 19 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Would heavily advise NOT doing that, unless you know what any of those words mean. —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 10:53, 19 March 2026 (UTC) :::::Well, obviously this needs to be restricted to <code>en.wikipedia.org</code>. [[user:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#c20;text-decoration:underline">sapphaline</span>]] ([[user talk:sapphaline|<span class="skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="color:#236;text-decoration:underline">talk</span>]]) 11:21, 19 March 2026 (UTC) == Adding to [[mw:Extension:WikiEditor]] == Does anyone know if there is a way to add a button to the WikiEditor toolbar using the built in functionality of that extension? I know I can hack it by inserting HTML after a certain element, but looking at [[mw:Extension:WikiEditor/Toolbar customization]] it looks like there should be a way to do it better IF the PHP settings are enabled. The question is... are they? Basically I would like to add a button that runs a certain javascript function... Any help appreciated as always! '''[[User:Zackmann08|<span style="color:#00d5ff">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94">mann</span>]]''' (<sup>[[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|<span style="color:orange">What I been doing</span>]]</sub>) 04:11, 19 March 2026 (UTC) :They are. The examples on that page work on WMF wikis. [[User:Nardog|Nardog]] ([[User talk:Nardog|talk]]) 04:19, 19 March 2026 (UTC) ::Was having a hard time getting it to work, I think I figured it out though. '''[[User:Zackmann08|<span style="color:#00d5ff">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94">mann</span>]]''' (<sup>[[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|<span style="color:orange">What I been doing</span>]]</sub>) 04:22, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
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