Editing Talk:Mac App Store

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==Controversy==
On the issue of the controversy section, while the developer does have to pay a fee to be part of the App Store distribution, the developer does not have to pay for the tools necessary to create applications for OS X. I'm new to the idea of editing THE Wikipedia (as opposed to lesser wikis), so I wanted to posit this here rather than actually editing.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.162.51.151|216.162.51.151]] ([[User talk:216.162.51.151|talk]]) 15:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Don't worry, [[WP:BOLD|be <del>happy</del>bold]]. [[User:Guy Harris|Guy Harris]] ([[User talk:Guy Harris|talk]]) 08:04, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Controversy and updates==
Speaking from a [[Computer security|security]] point of view, the Mac App Store is a ''HUGE'' step forward. Most users do not update their software regularly, be it because it lacks an automatic updating system, it is not run often enough or whatever. This is a big security issue, as updates may include vulnerability fixes.

Edit: the introduction of the article on [[software update]] even mention fixing vulnerabilities.

Edit 2: In fact, it seems common sens that if general software updates improves security, having this built-in the OS for most of the application the [[average Joe|user]] will ever use is really good. Comments appreciated.

Note: I'm quite new to WP editing, so I'm putting my thoughts here hoping someone may do the Right Thing.

HTH
[[User:DokReggar|DokReggar]] ([[User talk:DokReggar|talk]]) 15:24, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
:I don't see what you are wanting added to the article. If you clarify, I'll try to help. And by the way, welcome to Wikipedia! I wouldn't be too worried about editing on WP. If you mess up, it'll get fixed. --[[User:Thekmc|Thekmc]] ([[User talk:Thekmc|talk]]) 22:13, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== DRM? ==

One thing not mentioned here yet is the [[Digital rights management|DRM]] method; that's a very relevant piece of information. I looked around and it seems developers can opt to use "receipt checking" or not. --[[User:Stormwatch|Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:Stormwatch|talk]]) 20:30, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

:Do you have any good sources to verify this? If so, please tell us so we can update the article. Thanks.--[[User:Thekmc|Thekmc]] ([[User talk:Thekmc|talk]]) 22:07, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== GPL apps? ==

Yanked:
* Open-source software using [[copyleft]] licenses like the [[GPL]].<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375476,00.asp |title=Apple Pulls VLC Player from App Store Due to GPL |author=David Murphy |date=8 January 2011 |work=PCMag.com |publisher=PC Magazine |accessdate=8 January 2011}}</ref>

The citation given is for iOS App Store.  Feel free to re-add this if someone can find a citation based on the Mac App Store. [[User:Jrincayc|Jrincayc]] ([[User talk:Jrincayc|talk]]) 12:52, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

:oops, I misread the article. :/ --[[Special:Contributions/208.80.119.67|208.80.119.67]] ([[User talk:208.80.119.67|talk]]) 21:42, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

While the GPL notice has been put back in it's worth noting that it's not true, as stated, for neither store. You can't distribute GPL software through either of the stores but this doesn't apply if you're the copyright holder of the work itself. The GPL allows (mainly because it's your inalienable right under copyright law) to have multiple licenses. This means you can release your binary in the store under the Apple License and your source code under the GPL and you'd be perfectly able to release the app but nobody else would (as they'd have to work with GPL code, which doesn't allow it). Others would be able to compile and release your app, but not through the store. [[User:Eduo|eduo]] ([[User talk:Eduo|talk]]) 16:27, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

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== Fee ==

It appears that developers have to pay a fee to Apple to have their software on App Store, even if it's free. And if it's not free, Apple takes a 30% cut. Both of these seem pretty major points about the App Store, and I cannot imagine why they are not included in the article. [[Special:Contributions/59.92.198.177|59.92.198.177]] ([[User talk:59.92.198.177|talk]]) 18:32, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

== Sole Update Method to Lion ==

Should something be mentioned about the Mac App Store being the only way to upgrade to [[Mac OS X Lion|Mac OS X 10.7 Lion]] and that the 10.6.8 Update to [[Mac OS X Snow Leopard|Snow Leopard]] updated the app store to allow the Lion upgrade?
[[User:Kylalak|Kylalak]] ([[User talk:Kylalak|talk]]) 02:42, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

== Article should be renamed, and further linked to it's mobile counterpart. ==

The article should clearly be renamed, as the program is only called the "App Store" on the dashboard, NOT the "Mac App Store". To be consistent with the other App Store article, it should be called "App Store(Mac)" as the other article is called "App Store(iOS)" and that would make things much more consistent and less confusing. There should also be a "for the iOS version of the store, see App Store(iOS)" thing at the top, and the iOS article should also be connected here at it's top as well, with the same notation.[[User:Colliric|Colliric]] ([[User talk:Colliric|talk]]) 06:15, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
:{{ping|Colliric}} I believe that "Mac App Store" is actually the correct name. [http://www.apple.com/osx/apps/app-store.html Apple's promo page about the Mac App Store] includes lines like "With the '''Mac App Store''' built into OS X, getting the apps you want has never been easier" as well as has the header text "The Mac App Store". Compare this with [http://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/app-store/ Apple's promo page about the iOS App Store], which just calls it the App Store ("The '''App Store''' has the best selection of mobile apps"). '''[[User:Theopolisme|<span style="color:#232323;">Theopolisme</span>]] <span style="color:#4F4F4F;">([[User talk:Theopolisme|<span style="color:#4F4F4F;">talk</span>]])</span>''' 16:04, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::You are correct. Not only is "Mac App Store" the common name, it's actually the official name as evidenced by Apples own web site. That's kind of a double edged sword. The only evidence presented is that it says "App Store" on the Mac dashboard. That's not good enough.I couldn't move it back myself so I asked for a technical move back to the original name. That does not mean that an RM could not be requested however. [[User:Jojhutton|<span style="color:#A81933;">JOJ</span>]] [[User talk:Jojhutton|<sup style="color:#CC9900;">Hutton</sup>]] 16:47, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::: I can see that, yes. However it also specifically states "The Mac App Store is just like the App Store for iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch", meaning that it IS indeed ment to be interpreted as "Mac (version of the) App Store", hence if the name is changed back, it still needs to be linked to the "other version" at the top of the page, as Apple considers it the Mac version of the App Store, and on the computer itself it doesn't specifically say "Mac App Store" only says "App Store". [[User:Colliric|Colliric]] ([[User talk:Colliric|talk]]) 21:34, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
:::: Yes, the [[WP:hatnote|hatnote]] is currently there ("For the iOS version of the software, see App Store (iOS).") and vice versa on the iOS article ("For the OS X desktop app store, see Mac App Store."). The correct title for this article is "Mac App Store" (per above) and the correct title for the iOS article is "App Store (iOS)", so I think we're a-ok here. Thanks, '''[[User:Theopolisme|<span style="color:#232323;">Theopolisme</span>]] <span style="color:#4F4F4F;">([[User talk:Theopolisme|<span style="color:#4F4F4F;">talk</span>]])</span>''' 22:51, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

I strongly disagree, as the two stores are for entirely different platforms. --[[User:Pauldunahoo|Pauldunahoo]] ([[User talk:Pauldunahoo|talk]]) 20:46, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

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Apple seems to be rebranding it into App Store now. In Sierra, they dropped the “Mac” from several places now, e.g. Gatekeeper settings, App Store settings.–Totie ([[User talk:Totie#top|talk]]) 17:14, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

== Needs Updates and Expansion ==

This article has remained nearly the same since the Mac App Store's introduction. As a result, it is time for this article to be updated and expanded. Please tag the article with the respective notices. --[[User:Pauldunahoo|Pauldunahoo]] ([[User talk:Pauldunahoo|talk]]) 20:47, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

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== Requested move 2 November 2020 ==
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[[:App Store (macOS)]] → {{no redirect|Mac App Store}} – on Apple webpages, it's now using Mac App Store:https://apps.apple.com/us/app/macos-catalina/id1466841314?mt=12 https://www.apple.com/downloads/ [[User:IamCristYe|IamCristYe]] ([[User talk:IamCristYe|talk]]) 14:49, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
* '''Support move''' to avoid parenthetical disambiguation. 23:54, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
* '''Support''' as they use it and it ditches the parenthesis. [[User:Vici Vidi|Vici Vidi]] ([[User talk:Vici Vidi|talk]]) 08:41, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
* '''Support''' - reasonable move. [[User:Interstellarity|Interstellarity]] ([[User talk:Interstellarity|talk]]) 11:08, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
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== Should the iOS and iPad OS App Store merge with the Mac App Store? ==

Why are there two articles for App Store: One for Mac OS and the other for iPad and iOS? [[User:Myrealnamm|Myrealnamm]] ([[User talk:Myrealnamm|talk]]) 14:05, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

:Should they be combined? [[User:Myrealnamm|Myrealnamm]] ([[User talk:Myrealnamm|talk]]) 14:51, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
:I support a merge of [[Mac App Store]] into [[App Store (Apple)]]. Currently, Apple's [https://apps.apple.com App Store website] presents macOS as one of the App Store's six supported platforms (iPhone, iPad, Mac, Vision, Watch, TV). Based on this, I believe it would make more sense to cover the entire App Store and its support for all six platforms in one article, than to have an article that covers five of the App Store's platforms and a separate article for the sixth platform.{{bcc|Myrealnamm}} —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 09:03, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
:I do agree, they are pretty much the same [[User:XX Jms Xx|XX Jms Xx]] ([[User talk:XX Jms Xx|talk]]) 11:03, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
:Support a merge. [[User:EvanTech10|EvanTech10]] ([[User talk:EvanTech10|talk]]) 03:07, 16 March 2026 (UTC)