Editing Talk:Terrorism in Australia

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== Merge proposal ==
I propose merging [[List of terrorist incidents in Australia]] into [[Terrorism in Australia]]. There is significant overlap between the two articles, with the <i>Terrorism in Australia</i> page being half list anyway and the <i>List of terrorist incidents in Australia</i> is in very poor shape. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;"><u>talk</u></b>]]</sup> 11:38, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

:'''Oppose-''' The "Terrorism in Australia" article provides contextual information, history, legislation, and analysis of terrorism trends. The "List of terrorist incidents in Australia" provides a chronological, factual record of incidents. Keeping them separate allows readers to quickly access either detailed narrative or a factual list without one overwhelming the other. Wikipedia commonly separates narrative articles from lists of events, this separation is a standard editorial practice to improve clarity and navigability. [[User:Rockwizfan|Rockwizfan]] ([[User talk:Rockwizfan|talk]]) 09:58, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
:'''Support''' — agree with proposer's argument that there is significant overlap between the two articles, and there is not an identified need for them to be separate. [[User:CommandAShepard|CommandAShepard]] ([[User talk:CommandAShepard|talk]]) 11:36, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
:<small>Pinging @[[User:דברי.הימים|דברי.הימים]], @[[User:PARAKANYAA|PARAKANYAA]] and @[[User:Yue|Yue]] as editors involved in the merge discussion at [[Talk:Terrorism in Australia#Proposed merge of Far-right terrorism in Australia into Terrorism in Australia]]. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;"><u>talk</u></b>]]</sup> 05:22, 21 December 2025 (UTC)</small>
:Well, ideally it would probable be a list and a different prose article that gives greater detail on the broader issue, not a list article and a slightly worse list article. IMO removing the list content from the main terrorism in Australia article would be a better choice. Status quo is bad, though. [[User:PARAKANYAA|PARAKANYAA]] ([[User talk:PARAKANYAA|talk]]) 05:35, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:PARAKANYAA|PARAKANYAA]] So remove the main article's current list and replacing it with the one from the list article? [[User:CommandAShepard|CommandAShepard]] ([[User talk:CommandAShepard|talk]]) 05:39, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
:::I mean that would be the ideal but it might be more complicated in practice. Basically move the list content to one list article and then have a solely prose article evaluating the general phenomenon. [[User:PARAKANYAA|PARAKANYAA]] ([[User talk:PARAKANYAA|talk]]) 05:43, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
::::Ideally that is a good idea; however, I can see reverts happening or a list creeping back into 'Terrorism in Australian'. That's why I proposed what I see as the more pragmatic solution. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;"><u>talk</u></b>]]</sup> 07:05, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
:::::Agreed @[[User:TarnishedPath|TarnishedPath]]. I wasn't suggesting keeping the list article; all of its content would be merged/superceded into the main article. [[User:CommandAShepard|CommandAShepard]] ([[User talk:CommandAShepard|talk]]) 07:30, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''': The [[Terrorism in Australia]] article is very long already. Adding the [[List of terrorist incidents in Australia]] will make it longer. Keep the list separate. [[User:Melbguy05|Melbguy05]] ([[User talk:Melbguy05|talk]]) 15:54, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
::The list of incidents is already mostly in [[Terrorism in Australia]]. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;"><u>talk</u></b>]]</sup> 02:33, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
:<s>'''Oppose:''' Both pages are already quite large. Large tables work better as stand-alone pages. There's no benefit from trying to combine the two. </s> [[User:LateNightCoffee|Late Night Coffee]] ([[User talk:LateNightCoffee|talk]]) 10:58, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
: '''Merge or expand scope:''' "in Australia" isn't enough for a list page, there's only about 20 events on the list. Eıther merge it to the other page. Or alternately, expand the scope to a wider topic "List of terrorist incidents in Oceania" or "List of terrorist incidents involving Australia(ns)". [[User:LateNightCoffee|Late Night Coffee]] ([[User talk:LateNightCoffee|talk]]) 16:06, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

== First table ==

Table should include synagogue firebombing [[User:Takethebricks|Takethebricks]] ([[User talk:Takethebricks|talk]]) 00:55, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

== Terrorist groups in Australia ==

add IRGC using local criminalls [[User:Takethebricks|Takethebricks]] ([[User talk:Takethebricks|talk]]) 00:59, 23 January 2026 (UTC)