https://eurovision.jobogamer.xyz/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ARi_Su-yongTalk:Ri Su-yong - Revision history2026-05-20T05:15:41ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.45.3https://eurovision.jobogamer.xyz/index.php?title=Talk:Ri_Su-yong&diff=3596&oldid=previmported>Grapesurgeon: /* merging Ri Chol */ Reply2026-03-11T20:02:42Z<p><span class="autocomment">merging Ri Chol: </span> Reply</p>
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== merging [[Ri Chol]] ==<br />
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the other article is clearly a duplicate of this one, with the same name, birthday, «life path» etc. i think it should be a redirect to this one :3 [[User:Əkrəm|<span style="padding: 4px 6px; background-color: black; color: white; font-weight: bold">əkrəm<span style="color: #ABABAB">.</span></span>]] 04:20, 30 December 2025 (UTC)<br />
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:'''Oppose''' - I am not fully convinced yet that the two figures are identical. [[NK News]] cites Ri Chol and Ri Su-yong as separate figures (former as member of the SPA, latter as Chairman of FAC) [https://www.nknews.org/pro/in-full-promotions-and-demotions-at-north-koreas-14th-spa/]. <br>There may be some in-wiki confusion as well. The source which supports Ri Chol's date of birth (SK Information Center on North Korea) says his birthday is actually April 13, 1935 [https://web.archive.org/web/20160305012745/http://unibook.unikorea.go.kr/?sub_num=54&state=view&idx=519&sty=T&ste=%B8%AE%C3%B6]. But for some reason both the enwiki and kowiki says 1940. -- [[User:00101984hjw|00101984hjw]] ([[User talk:00101984hjw|talk]]) 19:24, 3 January 2026 (UTC)<br />
::'''Support''' I think. <br />
::@[[User:00101984hjw|00101984hjw]] Kowiki has a merge discussion ongoing. One editor cites several articles that claim these are the same people. [https://www.etoday.co.kr/news/view/898731][https://www.mk.co.kr/news/politics/5830534] {{tq|리 부부장은 1988년 스위스 대사로 임명돼 '리철'이라는 가명을 사용했고 김정은 북한 국방위원회 제1위원장의 스위스 유학 시절에는 후견인 역할을 한 것으로 알려졌다.}} "Ri went by the pseudonym Ri Chol during his stay in Switzerland as guardian of Kim Jong Un". [[User:Grapesurgeon|grapesurgeon]] ([[User talk:Grapesurgeon|talk]]) 04:20, 20 January 2026 (UTC)<br />
:::I am aware of these discussions; I've looked at the kowiki beforehand. However, due to the reasons aforementioned, I do not think the possibility that there is ''another'' Ri Chol can be ignored yet. -- [[User:00101984hjw|00101984hjw]] ([[User talk:00101984hjw|talk]]) 04:55, 20 January 2026 (UTC)<br />
:::{{u|grapesurgeon}}, was this ever resolved on kowiki? '''[[User:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:#0c4709">Thebiguglyalien</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color:#472c09">talk</span>]]) 18:06, 11 March 2026 (UTC)<br />
::::No, the nominator tagged the article creator but no reply. Back in January of this year. [[User:Grapesurgeon|grapesurgeon]] ([[User talk:Grapesurgeon|talk]]) 20:02, 11 March 2026 (UTC)</div>imported>Grapesurgeon