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The usual plot summary and list of appearances, with zero academic analysis or even reception. My BEFORE failed to find anything useful (the best I got is this Screenrant article, and it's mostly rehash of plot summary: [1]). WP:ATD-R points to a List of DC Comics characters. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:08, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Redirect to Hawkman, where this identity is described in depth. The alias of Hawkman is likely notable, but I doubt Hall is individually notable of the wider identity. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 03:43, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
  • Keep Portrayed by Aldis Hodge in Black Adam (2022), generating independent film coverage and analysis. 85-year publication history (1940). Screen Rant and other outlets covered the character's film adaptation in depth. Article needs reception/analysis added per WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM, not deletion. Sparks19923 (talk) 09:39, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
    @Sparks19923 Valnet sources cannot be used to show notability per Wikipedia:VALNET. Just because a character appeared in a film does not mean they are instantly notable, and a smattering of situational sources or ROUTINE coverage would not dispel that notion. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:23, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
Fair point on WP:VALNET; I withdraw the Screen Rant cite and I'm not relying on Valnet for notability.
The question is whether the character meets WP:GNG / WP:NFC via significant, independent reliable coverage beyond routine cast/plot mentions. There is at least some such coverage: The Hollywood Reporter ran a substantial feature discussing the character's publication history and significance, not just the film appearance (Graeme McMillan, "The Many Lives of 'Black Adam' Hero Hawkman").
I've also located an EBSCO Research Starters background/reference entry (Hawkman (character)), which may be useful for basic context but I agree it should not be treated as strong evidence of independent notability on its own.
I'll add these (and continue looking for additional non-Valnet independent coverage) and expand Reception/Analysis accordingly. If, after that pass, the sourcing is still mostly routine/trivial, I'd support a redirect/merge to Hawkman per the suggestion above. Sparks19923 (talk) 01:33, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
@Sparks19923 Both of these are about the Hawkman identity, largely, and discuss Hall as part of that identity. Most of this is just discussing the evolution of the role overtime, rather than putting significant discussion of Hall separately from Hawkman (Wikipedia:SIGCOV). This seems very much a Wikipedia:NOPAGE situation. Why split Hall out when he's only notable as being one of the identities of Hawkman, and is only discussed within the context of Hawkman's wider history?
Hawkman is definitely notable, but is Hall independently notable of Hawkman? My wager is probably not. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 04:23, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
  • Redirect/Merge with Hawkman page. Since I had last edited the Hawkman page, I felt pretty confident you could merge both versions of the character into the page and treat it as a immortal warrior reincarnating multiple times. Unlike the Kendra version, which her story includes distancing and being more independent form her past lives, Hawkman in general has consistencies and addressing descrepancies is not out of the question.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Svartner (talk) 04:43, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Servite et contribuere (talk) 08:26, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
  • Merge and redirect - in fact the content of this appears to be partially merged already. It doesn't make sense to write a separate article for one of two forms of a character based on a few marginal sources. NotBartEhrman (talk) 13:16, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Hawkman - Already sufficiently covered at the article on the main topic. The actual sourced publication information and such is already covered there, and the remainder of this article is simply overly detailed plot summaries and "lists of appearances" that are either unsourced or sourced only to primary sources. 21:07, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
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